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There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

#91
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This article is noticably more creative in its writing than the average nytimes article. Maybe a long train ride does a writer good (and anyone else who needs to think outside the box).

Amtrak has for a few years offered an annual Writers Residency Program. There may be some truth to your quip.

https://www.arts.gov/audio/writing-rails-amtrak-residency-wr...

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

#92
I once took the train from the Detroit area (BMM -- Birmingham) to San Francisco, roughly... 9.5 years ago. I went alone, had a sleeper cabin to myself, and loved it. I really want to do it again, this time maybe stopping off places on the way. What I particularly enjoyed was the route west seemed timed to pass through the Rockies and Sierra Nevada during daylight. Basically, I went to sleep around Omaha, woke in Colorado. Sleep near Salt Lake City, woke in Reno. Then departed in the Oakland area the next afternoon, took BART to Caltrain and on to my friend's place in Palo Alto. Made for a really nifty trip.

They aren't organized (I just dumped them), and Gallery2 is showing its age, but if you'd like to see a bunch of photos from on-board the train, here you go: https://nuxx.net/gallery/v/travel/sf_via_amtrak_nov_2009/all...

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

#93
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but Sweden is small. In the US, people routinely drive distances where you would be flying or using the train. The mountains make things a bit different, but I think in general it's true.

The argument would be that you don't need to travel where you can't take the train. If you have a job that requires it, quit.

Congratulations, you have good job mobility. And it biases you towards the privilege that you have, but most other people do not. The vast majority of people do not have that ability to be selective. In a few months, I must travel for work. Should I quit? You would say yes, I suppose. I don't have the luxury, either financially or as a matter of practicality: any other I might take would similarly require such travel on occasion. Maybe I could find another field to work in? Ah, but I live extremely close to my work place, less then 3km. Most other jobs, even within my field, would require I commute daily between 40-50km each way. So, maybe I avoid occasional air travel, but I still produce a larger carbon foot print. Train travel to other locations around me? Doesn't exist, there aren't the rails. Take a bus? Similarly, the routes don't work out: I might have to take 6 buses for 3 hours to get some place 40-50km away.

This is just the work side of things. What about family? A loved one is sick, or dies. Should I not travel to be with them, to help, to grieve with my family? Should I ask for a teleconference into the funeral?

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

#94

My wife and I did this several years back, New York to Chicago to San Francisco, and it really was a wonderful experience. But get a sleeper compartment, don't sit with the cattle. It's worth it, really. And that's even though we spent little time in our compartment almost the whole trip we were up in the observation car watching the American landscape roll by. One highlight of the trip was when storms over Helper, U…

> It's worth it, really How much does it cost?

According to the first paragraph in the article, it costs $1,089.

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

#95
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's worth it, really How much does it cost?

An absolute fortune. I've looked into this, and it isn't economical in any way, shape, or form. Flying across the continent is MUCH cheaper, and with your number of vacation days usually being limited, gives you a lot more time at your destination. The only reason to do this is because you really want to spend your vacation time sitting in a train watching rural American scenery go by in states like Montana. It's sor…

We can build your bullet train as soon as California finishes theirs.

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#96
post #84

My wife and I did this several years back, New York to Chicago to San Francisco, and it really was a wonderful experience. But get a sleeper compartment, don't sit with the cattle. It's worth it, really. And that's even though we spent little time in our compartment almost the whole trip we were up in the observation car watching the American landscape roll by. One highlight of the trip was when storms over Helper, U…

> But get a sleeper compartment, don't sit with the cattle. Cattle?

"Economy class, also called scum class, steerage, standard class or cattle class, is the lowest travel class of seating in air travel, rail travel, and sometimes ferry or maritime travel."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_class

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

#97
post #84

My wife and I did this several years back, New York to Chicago to San Francisco, and it really was a wonderful experience. But get a sleeper compartment, don't sit with the cattle. It's worth it, really. And that's even though we spent little time in our compartment almost the whole trip we were up in the observation car watching the American landscape roll by. One highlight of the trip was when storms over Helper, U…

> But get a sleeper compartment, don't sit with the cattle. Cattle?

"Cattle class" is a kinda faux-pejorative term for economy/coach/whatever the cheapest cabin is in some mode of transport.

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

#98

My wife and I did this several years back, New York to Chicago to San Francisco, and it really was a wonderful experience. But get a sleeper compartment, don't sit with the cattle. It's worth it, really. And that's even though we spent little time in our compartment almost the whole trip we were up in the observation car watching the American landscape roll by. One highlight of the trip was when storms over Helper, U…

I once was headed to MacWorld at the Moscone Centre on business with my partner. We flew from Toronto to Chicago, where we took the California Zephyr to Oakland.

After MacWorld we did a little sightseeing, then took the Coast Starlight to Portland, where we changed to the Empire Builder back to Chicago.

Except what actually happened was that an avalanche in the Cascades held us up until a work train called "Snowball" showed up to clear the tracks. It had a massive snowblower, a plow, a flat car, a crane car, and a couple of coaches full of workers and equipment.

We then missed our connection, so they loaded us on double-decker buses that raced to catch up with the Empire Builder. It was very memorable.

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

#99
post #33
post #19

This article shows how culturally different Sweden and U.S. are. In Sweden it has become taboo to use the plane for any travel destination where you can go by train, to the level where we see the complete opposite headlines here ("There is no reason to fly when you can take the train"). You need to have a very good reason to fly at all or the pitchforks will get you. I've personally completely stopped flying.

To be fair, NY → LA is over 4,000 KM. Would you fly to say, Bulgaria? Southern Italy?

I'm from the UK and I've taken the train for holidays in Southern Italy (Salerno) and Bosnia. (But to be fair I'd usually fly to Istanbul, and that's only 3MM).

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

#100

I once took the train from the Detroit area (BMM -- Birmingham) to San Francisco, roughly... 9.5 years ago. I went alone, had a sleeper cabin to myself, and loved it. I really want to do it again, this time maybe stopping off places on the way. What I particularly enjoyed was the route west seemed timed to pass through the Rockies and Sierra Nevada during daylight. Basically, I went to sleep around Omaha, woke in Col…

Upvote for photos, nice share!
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