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How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

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Re: How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

#151

Now that 'Escape' is not a real hardware key in the new Macbook Pro anymore and even otherwise 'Escape' has always been one of the hard to reach keys, what is workaround for avoiding the 'Escape' key in Vim?

Caps Lock is the original placement of the Esc key. It's much more useful having Esc on your home row.

Re: How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

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Then you'd be a terrible professor, because that attitude is not pro-learning. Students take their own notes because writing is an aid to memory. Students take electronic notes because those notes are easier to organise, edit, and search through. Many "decent" professors will not hand out notes, and the writings they put on the projector might be scanned and put online, but those writings have none of the benefits of…

You know people used to hand-write notes, right? The act of writing them actually helps one to remember -- I never went back and organized, edited, or searched through notes I took, because I remembered most of the material, and what I didn't was in the book.

>You know people used to hand-write notes, right?

They also used to write cuneiform :p What's your point here?

>The act of writing them actually helps one to remember

Source for this, in comparison to typing?

Re: How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

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I don't agree with this. Perhaps it's possible for someone with exceptional LaTeX and vim knowledge, but even after using both for 20 years I wouldn't do this. The point of the lecture is to assimilate structure and basic understanding, not to produce a neat set of notes instantly. To take notes to this detail means you're putting more time into the note taking than the work. Use a pen and paper. Write down structure…

I use pen and paper notes for meetings & discussions. While I love the act of physically writing, not having notes accessible and searchable at the tips of my fingers means I am not able to get the most out of them.

This discussion is timely as I have been researching smart pens the last few days which can give you exact copies of your paper notes into an app. Anyone here used them? Do you like them?

Re: How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

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That's awful. I probably have hundreds of pages of notes in this thing. Time to mass PDF export.

I have been using it for about 15 years so am in the same situation. I haven't found a suitable alternative yet. Annoyingly they're going to EOL the cloud connectivity for it in 2023 and then the product in 2025. I've taken all my notebooks offline and will deal with it at some point, probably in 2025 :D

I think the moral of the story is, do not depend on proprietary software ;)

Re: How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

#155
When I see a Math lecture written in LaTeX, I immediately know that I will probably be too dumb to follow it. It's almost always a deep exposition on what the writer want to show he/she knows or how many complicated formulas they can apply rather than really try to teach me something.

Re: How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

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post #137
post #65

I don't agree with this. Perhaps it's possible for someone with exceptional LaTeX and vim knowledge, but even after using both for 20 years I wouldn't do this. The point of the lecture is to assimilate structure and basic understanding, not to produce a neat set of notes instantly. To take notes to this detail means you're putting more time into the note taking than the work. Use a pen and paper. Write down structure…

People are different, the processes in their minds goes different ways. People develops different styles of learning and then they adopt to that styles and adopt styles for themselves. So it is pointless to agree or disagree. I personally like this idea of vim+LaTeX. It is close to what I did while studying math, though I write notes down with pen and paper. Mostly I wrote down them once and read them once before exa…

On the point of writing greek letters and symbols I've taken to practicing a Greek letter possibly hundreds of times when I first encounter it. Just write it, write it, and write it again.

At first it's just to understand how my hand has to move to write it efficiently, then I move on to attempting to write precisely. Finally, I write it over and over pushing myself to get it to the speed at which it will not interrupt the rest of the notes when it happens. This approach has be wildly successful for me and while it does take some time it is always time well spent.

Recently, I ran into § and just had to figure it out. Honestly, I was out of my depth in the Wikipedia article and I don't even know what it represents. It was fun, though.

Re: How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

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post #135
post #38

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The best response to having to do dumb work like this is to automate it with regex, bash (and possibly an unzipping tool - aren't word documents zipped xml?) and take the time that people previously gave you to do the task to tweak your scripts and learn things you find interesting. I got through my dumbest student jobs that way, which was almost all of my student jobs.

I got a friend that basically automated his job, the management was not pleased, and forced him to go back to doing it manually ... He managed to get another job. But figured out he wanted to work with actual software development, and it also seems to be a shortage of software developers. But it was virtually impossible to get a job without a degree or experience. So he's now at age 45 enrolling a five year universit…

This is so unfortunate, but I'm not surprised. What kind of poor management, when met with an efficiency that could double an employee's output by automating their current job, limits it back to the 50% efficiency? I've met some managers like that...

Re: How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

#158
post #65

I don't agree with this. Perhaps it's possible for someone with exceptional LaTeX and vim knowledge, but even after using both for 20 years I wouldn't do this. The point of the lecture is to assimilate structure and basic understanding, not to produce a neat set of notes instantly. To take notes to this detail means you're putting more time into the note taking than the work. Use a pen and paper. Write down structure…

I use pen and paper notes for meetings & discussions. While I love the act of physically writing, not having notes accessible and searchable at the tips of my fingers means I am not able to get the most out of them. This discussion is timely as I have been researching smart pens the last few days which can give you exact copies of your paper notes into an app. Anyone here used them? Do you like them?

I've never used standalone smartpens but I semi-regularly take handwritten notes in an iPad app using Apple's smart pencil. Some apps attempt to turn cursive into text but TBH my handwriting isn't good enough for the transcription to work reliably.

Re: How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

#159
I really like this, but it would be very hard to learn all the macros. There were no real portable computers when I did undergrad. When I much later went to law school I transcribed about 90% of what the professors said on a latptop and then later went back though it to make outlines and then outlines of outlines. I took some premed classes after that but because of the drawings I had to handwrite the notes. I still transcribed as much as possible of what the professors said and later went back and outlined from it. I've never been able to learn from the textbook and if I ever missed a class I did poorly if tested on that material.

Re: How I'm able to take notes in mathematics lectures using LaTeX and Vim

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post #65

I don't agree with this. Perhaps it's possible for someone with exceptional LaTeX and vim knowledge, but even after using both for 20 years I wouldn't do this. The point of the lecture is to assimilate structure and basic understanding, not to produce a neat set of notes instantly. To take notes to this detail means you're putting more time into the note taking than the work. Use a pen and paper. Write down structure…

While I agree with you on the notes aspect of this (and have always used pen-and-paper notes), I do think that the setup described here would be quite useful for authoring papers -- I've always found it is way too painful to write out math-mode equations in LaTeX.
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