Petition: Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU

Post by kstenerud » Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 8:22 AM UTC

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #21

kstenerud wrote: post #20

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The UK uses representative democracy, not direct democracy. The referendum was a silly exercise from the start. May has to go through with it, not for legally binding reasons, but because her political future depends on it. What's been happening this past week is political maneuvering into "our only remaining option is a delay", long enough for everyone to get tired of it all, such that they can rescind article 50 qu…

> her political future depends on it. Her political future was obliterated when the first vote was lost by huge margin. She'd be out already but for the fact no one with a brain wants to be in charge during this farce - the bad smell would cover them too. If she chose to withdraw Article 50 and remain, she'd certainly lose yet again, though ironically quite likely by a smaller margin. The Tories have been split over…

Post by djd20 » Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 8:53 AM UTC

benj111 wrote: post #19

black-tea wrote: post #17

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Cambridge, London, Bristol. The same people who voted to stay. What a surprise.

Poor inner cities voted Labour, posh country areas voted Conservative. What a surprise. It isn't the hard core that win elections, its the swing voters. So no it isn't a surprise, and it isn't really relevant.

Post by djd20 » Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 9:06 AM UTC

djd20 wrote: post #24

benj111 wrote: post #19

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Poor inner cities voted Labour, posh country areas voted Conservative. What a surprise. It isn't the hard core that win elections, its the swing voters. So no it isn't a surprise, and it isn't really relevant.

Make sure to look at the % map, not the 'number of voters map' as that is a more representative picture.

Post by nodex-alex » Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 9:58 AM UTC

altairiumblue wrote: post #11

boyter wrote: post #3

Not the most popular view, but if after a referendum politicians can dither about for long enough to make things painful then say "Lets have a do over" whats the point of actually voting? The whole thing just feels like an assault on democracy. The popular vote was to leave. If you put it to the people, then do what they ask. You can probably ask to join again later. Was the vote done with imperfect information? Prob…

In general, you can't take a strictly advisory referendum with a win margin of a couple % to dictate your international policy for decades. More specifically, when the winning side has committed campaign violations and the UK's own National Crime Agency has found illegal foreign interference, maybe you should investigate further instead of driving head on. If you ask me, this was the "assault on democracy", not the "…

Post by black-tea » Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 1:26 PM UTC

benj111 wrote: post #19

black-tea wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cambridge, London, Bristol. The same people who voted to stay. What a surprise.

Poor inner cities voted Labour, posh country areas voted Conservative. What a surprise. It isn't the hard core that win elections, its the swing voters. So no it isn't a surprise, and it isn't really relevant.