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Re: Dyson Lightcycle Task Lamp

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Post by kbenson »

larkeith wrote: post #35
jacklewis wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand the frustration but you really have the need for a bose soundsystem while not owning any modern computing device or smart phone?

Keep in mind that many (all?) smartphones are deliberately obsoleted within 2-3 years of release - as an example, my S5 (released 2014) only supports through Marshmallow (obsolete as of 2016). Any apps requiring Nougat or later are unavailable to me. Given that I personally use my phone for communication, browsing the web, reading, and note-taking (and occasionally SSH), this isn't a concern, but it might well be a d…

Same situation here, but with an S6. I would probably pay a subscription for an AOSP based install that was supported and got updates. The volunteer level of support for supporting different devices that LineageOS gets means that for some phones (namely the one I'm using), have poor or nonexistent current offerings. :/

Re: Dyson Lightcycle Task Lamp

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Post by ianhowson »

masklinn wrote: post #38

> Heat Pipe cooling technology. […] Dyson engineers addressed this with technology often used in satellites. Or in many/most CPU and GPU heatsinks for the last decade or so, both Intel and AMD have heatpipe-based stock coolers in their range. There are heatpipe-based heatsinks available for $10~15.

It's novel for an LED lamp, though. Most manufacturers just put a heatsink on the back. It's ugly.

If you're going for the best possible LED lamp, irrespective of cost, I can't think of a better cooling method.

Re: Dyson Lightcycle Task Lamp

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Post by kbenson »

oeuviz wrote: post #26
doe88 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's great, but who wants to pay that much to have the same light for 60 years? This. Technologies evolve/improve so fast, you don't want to be stuck with them forever anyway.

My coffee maker is from 1972 which makes it more than a decade older than the user. So there seems to be a market for high quality, unbreakable technology. But then again, how many years could it be operational when depending on an app.

> So there seems to be a market for high quality, unbreakable technology.

There's a whole subreddit devoted to it, /r/buyitforlife.[1] I guess that's not much of a claim, since there's a subreddit for everything, but this one is kinda neat. :)

That said, I think what a lot of people take issue with on Dyson devices is the extreme price premium which isn't really required most the time to achieve the advertised level of quality.

1: https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/

Re: Dyson Lightcycle Task Lamp

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #33
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #29

Whereas an Anglepoise lamp actually will last 60 years. Many already have. It's too early to know if their LED variant will. Dyson had one decent idea that everyone else adopted too - cyclones instead of bags. Everything else seems to require paying 10x what a sane premium and expensive cost might be - lamps, hair dryers, fan heaters. The innovation is making it appear complex enough to justify the absurd price. I be…

Their contra-rotating drum washing machine was innovative but they pulled it from the market. Innovative ideas don’t necessarily having staying-power either.

True, I'd forgotten that one. The same explosion in a paint factory ABS everywhere looks as the vacuums meant it wasn't a permitted option for our house. :)

They updated those that were sold to disable the contra-rotating. No idea why.

Re: Dyson Lightcycle Task Lamp

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Post by ctack »

ctack wrote: post #45

A couple fo years ago someone figured out how to recreate sunlight. I can't wait for that to take off and was hoping this might be the start. I think this is them https://www.coelux.com

Wow, looking at it now and they're orders of magnitude more expensive than the already expensive Dyson lamps.

Re: Dyson Lightcycle Task Lamp

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Post by michaelt »

submeta wrote: post #32
oeuviz wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My coffee maker is from 1972 which makes it more than a decade older than the user. So there seems to be a market for high quality, unbreakable technology. But then again, how many years could it be operational when depending on an app.

Curious: What kind / brand is it?

I once had a really good 40-year-old washing machine at a place I rented. Later, when I needed a washing machine of my own I looked up that top-quality brand and discovered in the intervening time they'd been brought by one of the bottom-quality brands, replaced their entire product lineup, moved their manufacturing abroad, and most likely replaced every employee too.

Re: Dyson Lightcycle Task Lamp

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Post by ghusbands »

achow wrote: post #11
dreamcompiler wrote: post #7

Not sure about the point of this. Okay, the heat pipe is a reasonable idea, but a light that matches my local sun cycle would be useless: At night (when I actually need it) it would be off. Clearly I'm missing something.

> Okay, the heat pipe is a reasonable idea.. Even that is not. ...water cooling process works by condensation. As the processor heats up, the liquid essentially vaporizes, keeping the CPU cool. The vapor then travels to the opposite end of the of the heat pipe, where it condenses back into liquid when cooled off. 2016. Samsung Galaxy S7 https://www.howtogeek.com/365535/how-does-water-cooling-work...

> > Okay, the heat pipe is a reasonable idea..

> Even that is not.

Did you mean to claim that a heat pipe is not reasonable? (the rest of your comment doesn't make your point clear)

Re: Dyson Lightcycle Task Lamp

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Post by jakobegger »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #29

Whereas an Anglepoise lamp actually will last 60 years. Many already have. It's too early to know if their LED variant will. Dyson had one decent idea that everyone else adopted too - cyclones instead of bags. Everything else seems to require paying 10x what a sane premium and expensive cost might be - lamps, hair dryers, fan heaters. The innovation is making it appear complex enough to justify the absurd price. I be…

High quality desk lamps often cost 500€ to 1000€. There's nothing absurd about the price, if these are actually high quality lamps.

Re: Dyson Lightcycle Task Lamp

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

jakobegger wrote: post #49
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #29

Whereas an Anglepoise lamp actually will last 60 years. Many already have. It's too early to know if their LED variant will. Dyson had one decent idea that everyone else adopted too - cyclones instead of bags. Everything else seems to require paying 10x what a sane premium and expensive cost might be - lamps, hair dryers, fan heaters. The innovation is making it appear complex enough to justify the absurd price. I be…

High quality desk lamps often cost 500€ to 1000€. There's nothing absurd about the price, if these are actually high quality lamps.

lol no. Anglepoise were just about top of the market when we bought one about ten years ago. Paid about £90-£100. A quick search shows about 10% more now. A genuine antique can run higher, especially if with Tiffany shades, original 20s bankers lamps etc.

I'm sure there's one or two others selling emperor's new clothes at absurd prices like Dyson too -- that's very far from "often".

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