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Four Wikipedias to ‘Black Out’ over EU Copyright Directive

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Re: Four Wikipedias to ‘Black Out’ over EU Copyright Directive

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The EU started as a union to promote freedom of movement, peace and trade inside Europe. Since then, it has grown to be an oversized bureaucracy that restricts the freedoms of European citizens. Everyone who criticize it is immediately labelled as a right winger.

Re: Four Wikipedias to ‘Black Out’ over EU Copyright Directive

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The EU started as a union to promote freedom of movement, peace and trade inside Europe. Since then, it has grown to be an oversized bureaucracy that restricts the freedoms of European citizens. Everyone who criticize it is immediately labelled as a right winger.

I am not sure why you are being down-voted. I know people have a distaste for political insights in general here, but it seems apt to have comments like these on an article about protesting a governing body. Why is German Wikipedia having to have a blackout? They are unhappy with the EU restricting their freedoms.

Re: Four Wikipedias to ‘Black Out’ over EU Copyright Directive

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The EU started as a union to promote freedom of movement, peace and trade inside Europe. Since then, it has grown to be an oversized bureaucracy that restricts the freedoms of European citizens. Everyone who criticize it is immediately labelled as a right winger.

I am not sure why you are being down-voted. I know people have a distaste for political insights in general here, but it seems apt to have comments like these on an article about protesting a governing body. Why is German Wikipedia having to have a blackout? They are unhappy with the EU restricting their freedoms.

I downvoted it because the comment has no substance besides "EU bad". It adds nothing of value to the discussion.

Explain why the EU is an "oversized bureaucracy".

Re: Four Wikipedias to ‘Black Out’ over EU Copyright Directive

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The big websites participating in the blackout like Wikipedia or some porn sites do have vast access to eyeballs across europe, and would be affected directly and adversely by the new rules. As the lobbying fight has already been mostly won by the local publisher industry, they use their access to those eyeballs to fuel democratic protests of the rule.

I hope they win and that Article 11 and 13 will be removed.

I think this is an important moment in the birth of EU democracy, because it feels to me that one of the first times, there is a big public discussion about an issue and the people at the center aren't national politicians like Merkel or Macron but EU MEPs, namely Voss vs Reda. The EU has rightfully been criticized of not being democratic enough, and this discussion feels like it's very much democratic.

Re: Four Wikipedias to ‘Black Out’ over EU Copyright Directive

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As an EU citizen, I hope large portions of the internet will just block us. A couple of days without YouTube, Wikipedia and other services would create sufficient outrage to put pressure on the EU for introducing these idiotic laws.

I mean, GDPR is bad enough for start ups, but Article 13?

Re: Four Wikipedias to ‘Black Out’ over EU Copyright Directive

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I am not sure why you are being down-voted. I know people have a distaste for political insights in general here, but it seems apt to have comments like these on an article about protesting a governing body. Why is German Wikipedia having to have a blackout? They are unhappy with the EU restricting their freedoms.

I downvoted it because the comment has no substance besides "EU bad". It adds nothing of value to the discussion. Explain why the EU is an "oversized bureaucracy".

I also don't see the link to the topic at hand: It's not the (debatable) "oversized bureaucracy" that has drafted and works on passing Article 13: It is national governments (see the French / German "deal" on this topic) and the European Parliament (and particularly the EPP) that are the source of Article 13 and the frustration that lead to this blackout.

Re: Four Wikipedias to ‘Black Out’ over EU Copyright Directive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure why you are being down-voted. I know people have a distaste for political insights in general here, but it seems apt to have comments like these on an article about protesting a governing body. Why is German Wikipedia having to have a blackout? They are unhappy with the EU restricting their freedoms.

I downvoted it because the comment has no substance besides "EU bad". It adds nothing of value to the discussion. Explain why the EU is an "oversized bureaucracy".

What are you talking about? I don't necessarily support the view of the commenter, but it basically has 3 parts: States what the organization was, what it has become, and why criticism is a point of contention. For someone who knows little about the EU, it's exactly a starting point for discussion. An article like this invites opinions - does one agree with the action of Wikipedia or not? It's a comment - it does not express 'EU Bad' and does what a comment does - it comments. Now, the further discussion can be about whether one agrees with the position put forth. Every comment on here doesn't need to be some essay explaining an opinion - a succinct opinion that invites discussion is actually healthy.

Re: Four Wikipedias to ‘Black Out’ over EU Copyright Directive

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As an EU citizen, I hope large portions of the internet will just block us. A couple of days without YouTube, Wikipedia and other services would create sufficient outrage to put pressure on the EU for introducing these idiotic laws. I mean, GDPR is bad enough for start ups, but Article 13?

GDPR is just fine, if you've got your shit together and has some actual benefits for users, like being able to request all my saved data and its deletion. And of course disallowing websites handing my data to every possible ad network without my consent.
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