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What kind of argument is that though ? You should go to SF or NY and tell them it's just a supply problem, they probably haven't thought of it before. Do you know the cost of destroying + rebuilding bigger buildings in a city center ? Much higher than closing a few semi legal "airbnb hotels". And that's if you can even build in the city at all.
That's exactly it. They have thought about it but the people who complain about AirBnBs are generally the benifitors of artificially reduced supply. Nobody is renting AirBnBs in Bensonhurst, they're in the WV or Chelsea. World's tiniest violin.
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This is the USA, I'm surprised he wasn't shot. Not joking at all, your story is actually kinda funny but it could have gone so much worse at so many points. Is that AirBnB's fault? Is it the hosts fault? Is it the cities fault for not regulating this? Is it our society's fault for allowing drinking to the point of forgetting your address? I think in the end it's just a series of unfortunate events, that give you a re…
Despite what the media tries to tell you, shooting people in the US is not common. The media has an agenda on you thinking otherwise.
In my neighborhood (SF Mission) there's a shooting at least once a week... seems like mostly on Sundays. So it just depends where in the U.S. you're living.
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If AirBnBs overtook 90% of the apartments in your neighborhood this example might be relevant. > The company begins boxing up that resource and shipping it off to people who will pay more money for that resource. Unless you live in Christiana this is probably already the case. AirBnBs tend to be in expensive neighborhoods.
If it were not the case that the resource was being shipped off and sold for more that would mean I could stay in an AirBnB for the same price as a pay for rent, which I can't.
That's pretty absurd -- you're paying a discount for being a long-term tenant with a legally binding contract (and no cleaning/daily upkeep). Would you expect buying a home versus AirBnBing one to cost the same over 10+ years?
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the USA, I'm surprised he wasn't shot. Not joking at all, your story is actually kinda funny but it could have gone so much worse at so many points. Is that AirBnB's fault? Is it the hosts fault? Is it the cities fault for not regulating this? Is it our society's fault for allowing drinking to the point of forgetting your address? I think in the end it's just a series of unfortunate events, that give you a re…
Despite what the media tries to tell you, shooting people in the US is not common. The media has an agenda on you thinking otherwise.
Chicago had 561 murders in 2018. That's 1.5 murders a day.
Chicago had 2948 shooting victims in 2018. That's 8 shooting victims a day.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-murder-total-2018-...
To someone living in Europe, these rates defy belief.
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If it were not the case that the resource was being shipped off and sold for more that would mean I could stay in an AirBnB for the same price as a pay for rent, which I can't.
That's pretty absurd -- you're paying a discount for being a long-term tenant with a legally binding contract (and no cleaning/daily upkeep). Would you expect buying a home versus AirBnBing one to cost the same over 10+ years?
The end product that consumes the resource may be different but the availability of the resource my community needs to sustain life is compromised when it's arbitraged.
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That's pretty absurd -- you're paying a discount for being a long-term tenant with a legally binding contract (and no cleaning/daily upkeep). Would you expect buying a home versus AirBnBing one to cost the same over 10+ years?
The end product that consumes the resource may be different but the availability of the resource my community needs to sustain life is compromised when it's arbitraged.
What if landlords charging market-rent rate compromises your community? What you're saying only makes sense if you don't live in a capitalist society.
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The hotels usually remain full. There's a huge pent-up demand for tourism.
Now you get it. Airbnb is providing a service there's a huge demand and need for, not some evil provider that's forcing something down people's throats.
The fact that there's a huge demand is irrelevant to it being forced on non users of the service. I.e. neighbors.
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I’ve spent a lot of summer trips hiking around small vacation towns in Colorado, and I’ve always found regular hotels to be a great way to do it. Occasionally I need to drive a bit more, but it’s not too bad. What I like about hotels is the consistency of service and cleanliness, availability of nearby food or other services. Don’t get me wrong: even though I’ve had some bad experiences with individual hosts on Airbn…
> I’ve spent a lot of summer trips hiking around small vacation towns in Colorado, and I’ve always found regular hotels to be a great way to do it. Occasionally I need to drive a bit more, but it’s not too bad. That sounds nice, and it suits a lot of people just fine. But try doing that with a family, and on a limited budget. I'll give you an example: last year I "rented" my own place for a week with family. We cramm…
In a hotel room with an attached suite, this isn’t very hard. Most in the group can stay in small economy rooms, then use the suite for group things or big meals. My extended family (usually groups of 20+, with various budgets) does this also for beach vacations to book oceanside hotels pretty cheaply, and we also make use of shared spaces, like picnic areas or large table spaces you can use for free at some lodges.
I’ve found that groceries in and around big ski centers are often much more expensive than low-end takeout or a pizza.. plus you have to have someone in the group spend time cooking and cleaning instead of just enjoying the trip. Personally, if my budget was too limited to avoid that, or I couldn’t afford one suite at the hotel, it would be a sign that it’s not a financially good idea to plan the trip so soon and I should save money longer before going.
The trade-offs are different for everybody, which makes me feel like these just-so anecdotes simply should just be omitted from any discussion about the overall scumminess of Airbnb business practices & lobbying vs hotels.
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Despite what the media tries to tell you, shooting people in the US is not common. The media has an agenda on you thinking otherwise.
Chicago had 561 murders in 2018. That's 1.5 murders a day. Chicago had 2948 shooting victims in 2018. That's 8 shooting victims a day. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-murder-total-2018-... To someone living in Europe, these rates defy belief.
yea but its fucking chicago. inner cities suck in the us.
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
The end product that consumes the resource may be different but the availability of the resource my community needs to sustain life is compromised when it's arbitraged.
What if landlords charging market-rent rate compromises your community? What you're saying only makes sense if you don't live in a capitalist society.
Exactly.