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Re: Google terminated our startup's developer account – what do we do?

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i have no idea what that means.

This game explains the paperclip maximizer: http://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/

i can and did look it up, since i hadn't heard of it before. however, that doesn't answer the question as to what the commenter meant with their comment in the context of my reply. i meant "that" as in their whole comment in context.

Re: Google terminated our startup's developer account – what do we do?

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> These are becoming quite common. If my account would be terminated my business would be dead. How is Google not handling this better? After drilling down into these posts it's very common to find those developers stealing user data, using forbidden advertising techniques, infringing copyright or simply trying to scam around Google's 30% payment cut. Apple would kick them off the App store immediately as well (and e…

If we stipulate that you are totally correct (which I sincerely hope you are), what about the effect that permanent blacklisting can have on an individual's life? And if somebody gets banned, apparently now they must become "unclean" and be kept far away lest they "infect" the company.

I wonder which is harder/takes longer, starting a new business after a SEC violation, or some othe serious misdoing, or getting back on the Play Store.

Re: Google terminated our startup's developer account – what do we do?

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Unfortunately, this is the way things go. If you are going to build a business on top of something offered by Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple, etc, you will never rest easy because you should know your app can be killed at any time for any reason, right or wrong. These companies are omnipotent and untouchable. They have these automated systems in place because they have determined them to be the most cost effective w…

If Stripe banned you do you have a backup in place?

I run a very small e-commerce store and we process Paypal (I'm no fan) but have the option of a 2nd merchant too for direct card charges.

Re: Google terminated our startup's developer account – what do we do?

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Is there some reason Google has zero support for developers? Any of the other big corps I've had to deal with as a dev usually have some option to email support to resolve issues. Some of them have amazing support, with live chat. But Google is an impenetrable blank wall. The obvious answer is to save money. Maybe they reckon the Play Store is saturated so it doesnt really matter if 5% of devs say meet an impassable…

Even Adwords, their supposed jewel in the crown, has the worst customer support I've ever experienced. Have you ever tried contacting them? It's all offshored to India/Phillipines. They refused to honour their GSuite free credit offer, then hung up on me when I insisted they escalate the problem. The difference between their outbound sales lines and their inbound support lines are laughable. I assume it's better when…

"their search ecosystem is leagues ahead of competitors" Not sure what u mean, but if u just mean Google.com I dont believe thats true anymore. I switched to DuckDuckGo a while back and it seems basically the same except u will get less 'sponsored' results garbage, and also I feel a little bit less en-bubbled when using it.

Re: Google terminated our startup's developer account – what do we do?

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This game explains the paperclip maximizer: http://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/

i can and did look it up, since i hadn't heard of it before. however, that doesn't answer the question as to what the commenter meant with their comment in the context of my reply. i meant "that" as in their whole comment in context.

I think the idea is that a goal maximizer can create evil actions even in the absence of evil intent.

Re: Google terminated our startup's developer account – what do we do?

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I had about 30 domains at one point so I set them all up on Adsense as I wasn’t using them. I spent about 3 days setting it up. On the last day I went and checked all 30 domains to make sure I setup all of them. 2 days later I got banned. So I was on Adsense for 5 days total. But I’ve never cared to contest it cos I don’t care. But I don’t understand how Google can’t ignore my views to Adsense.

Exactly, they can definitely detect your own views, why they can't just toss them out, I don't know. One time I got curious what the ads on my site were for and checked a few of the links out. I was banned permanently shortly after.

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Re: Google terminated our startup's developer account – what do we do?

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Even Adwords, their supposed jewel in the crown, has the worst customer support I've ever experienced. Have you ever tried contacting them? It's all offshored to India/Phillipines. They refused to honour their GSuite free credit offer, then hung up on me when I insisted they escalate the problem. The difference between their outbound sales lines and their inbound support lines are laughable. I assume it's better when…

"their search ecosystem is leagues ahead of competitors" Not sure what u mean, but if u just mean Google.com I dont believe thats true anymore. I switched to DuckDuckGo a while back and it seems basically the same except u will get less 'sponsored' results garbage, and also I feel a little bit less en-bubbled when using it.

Yes, I meant Google Search itself (plus the broader AdWords partner network, YouTube, etc).

I'm on DDG for my primary search engine too, but

(a) I fall back to !G for at least 50% of my queries. (b) You and I are a tiny, tiny minority. DDG users are not even a fraction of a rounding error in the global search userbase.

DDG is nowhere near being a serious threat to Google - it may well in future, but right now, Google still rules the roost (Facebook being the only other equal). You only need to look at their respective financials to confirm it.

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