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Re: AirPods with Wireless Charging Case

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Post by stouset »

EpicEng wrote: post #323
asudosandwich wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It helps in a pinch if you’re on a really long conference call and the batteries start to run low. I’ll pop one briefly back in the case to top it off and not have to miss anything said.

Sure, it's a fine workaround for a dying pair, but the GP said: >I'll just address this point, because it is categorically incorrect and something many people misunderstood when they were first released

GP said they "can't be charged while being used". Which is categorically incorrect. They can, and on the scale of Things That Are a Big Deal, it's an 0.3 out of 10.

Re: AirPods with Wireless Charging Case

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Post by EpicEng »

stouset wrote: post #331
EpicEng wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, it's a fine workaround for a dying pair, but the GP said: >I'll just address this point, because it is categorically incorrect and something many people misunderstood when they were first released

GP said they "can't be charged while being used". Which is categorically incorrect. They can, and on the scale of Things That Are a Big Deal, it's an 0.3 out of 10.

They can't both be used, and c'mon; is this really a debate? You cannot use _both_ of them and charge them at the same time. The best experience comes from using _both_ of them simultaneously. So, it's a workaround. It's fine, it's whatever, but it's also silly to get haughty about it as if there were no impact whatsoever.

Re: AirPods with Wireless Charging Case

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Post by exergy »

stouset wrote: post #329
EpicEng wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's all well and good if using one were the same as using two. Of course, it isn't...

I really wish I could put myself into the shoes of people who think that fifteen minutes of using only one earbud is a big deal, but I honestly just can't.

To me, that blows big holes in the argument that Airpods are better than wired earphones. It's compromises up and down the chart with the sole benefit being wirelessness? Are people nowadays really that rich that they can dump 150 USD EVERY two to three years just to get rid of a wire?!

Also, I just can't fathom people's willingness to let so much tech into their lives. Laptops, tablets, smartphones, smartwatches, airpods... all of which need to be constantly charged, and replaced once their batteries die, because they cannot be swapped out, meaning the rest of the apparatus lies impotent in a dumpster for a thousand years or more, never to biodegrade... it's depressing and wearisome to picture.

Re: AirPods with Wireless Charging Case

#335

Post by stouset »

exergy wrote: post #330
sosborn wrote: post #302

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> What is the improvement I am missing here? I think what you are missing is that different people value things differently. These don't make sense for you? That's fine, don't buy them. They don't make sense for me either, so I don't buy them. However, I can understand how it would make sense for someone else. Arguing the money aspect doesn't make sense because we never know a person's income, expenses and savings. $…

How about arguing for the environmental cost of our throwaway culture? Airpods have a MUCH higher environmental impact than ordinary earphones. A lot of tech is crammed into these things, all of which uses energy, resources, distilled water and so on to produce. I have a pair of Shure earphones that have "just worked" for going onto three years now. I had to change NOTHING on them, and they've never complained. I've…

> I have a pair of Shure earphones that have "just worked" for going onto three years now. I had to change NOTHING on them, and they've never complained. I've worn them for 2+ hours Every. Single. Day. during that time period.

And I have a pair of Airpods that have "just worked" for I guess about two and a half years now. I've had to change NOTHING on them, and they've never complained. I've worn them for 2+ hours (almost) Every. Single. Day. during that time period.

> People are reporting rubbish battery lives on the Apple subreddit already

People are going to report a litany of problems with every new product. There is zero reason to believe that battery life on these new AirPods should be, outside of defective devices, any less than the previous model.

Re: AirPods with Wireless Charging Case

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Post by maxmunzel »

exergy wrote: post #330
sosborn wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What is the improvement I am missing here? I think what you are missing is that different people value things differently. These don't make sense for you? That's fine, don't buy them. They don't make sense for me either, so I don't buy them. However, I can understand how it would make sense for someone else. Arguing the money aspect doesn't make sense because we never know a person's income, expenses and savings. $…

How about arguing for the environmental cost of our throwaway culture? Airpods have a MUCH higher environmental impact than ordinary earphones. A lot of tech is crammed into these things, all of which uses energy, resources, distilled water and so on to produce. I have a pair of Shure earphones that have "just worked" for going onto three years now. I had to change NOTHING on them, and they've never complained. I've…

The environmental Argument is interesting as I am thinking about getting AirPods precisely because Im sick of throwing away my regular in Ears because the headphone jacks keep breaking when I carry them crumbled in my jeans. (I hate having them tangle around while not in use). As an earlier poster pointed out: It all depends on your use case and preferences.

Re: AirPods with Wireless Charging Case

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Post by jerkstate »

EpicEng wrote: post #303
stouset wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and can't be charged while being used I'll just address this point, because it is categorically incorrect and something many people misunderstood when they were first released. There are two of them. You can use them independently from one another. When you hear the "low battery" tone, it's trivial to remove one and continue to use the other. By the time the tone plays again in the one you continued to use (signali…

That's all well and good if using one were the same as using two. Of course, it isn't...

I've got an easy fix for you, just buy two pairs, and charge the pair that you're not using!

Re: AirPods with Wireless Charging Case

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Post by exergy »

stouset wrote: post #335
exergy wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about arguing for the environmental cost of our throwaway culture? Airpods have a MUCH higher environmental impact than ordinary earphones. A lot of tech is crammed into these things, all of which uses energy, resources, distilled water and so on to produce. I have a pair of Shure earphones that have "just worked" for going onto three years now. I had to change NOTHING on them, and they've never complained. I've…

> I have a pair of Shure earphones that have "just worked" for going onto three years now. I had to change NOTHING on them, and they've never complained. I've worn them for 2+ hours Every. Single. Day. during that time period. And I have a pair of Airpods that have "just worked" for I guess about two and a half years now. I've had to change NOTHING on them, and they've never complained. I've worn them for 2+ hours (a…

Let's come back to this thread in two more years and continue this chat. Are you in good faith arguing that airpods and quality earphones will last the same amount of time and have the same environmental impact? It's one thing to have wanton disregard for the environment and say "Fuck climate change, convenience rulez", but a whole another thing to try to convince yourself that there IS no difference between the two choices.

Also, to preempt any exhortations of slippery slope fallacies, I'd say every person deserves a good laptop that they take care of, and a smartphone that they try to get to last as long as possible. That's where we draw the line. Every gadget beyond that should cause a serious examination of how necessary it is in one's life, and whether it is a want or a need. Airpods would fail catastrophically for almost everyone in such a sytem.

Re: AirPods with Wireless Charging Case

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Post by Phlarp »

saagarjha wrote: post #289
reaperducer wrote: post #226

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Perhaps it's an XR thing. My X and my wife's new XS both had the adapter. Look on the back of the EarPods. It's attached to the cardboard carrier.

> my wife's new XS Are you sure about that? I’m pretty sure iPhone XS didn’t come with this.

XS max owner, I did not get an adapter with mine.
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