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Re: AirPods

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Post by ksec » Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 6:13 PM UTC

metafunctor wrote: post #98

dkersten wrote: post #29

Apple's insistence that I should use wireless for my ear/headphone needs is a large reason why I'm giving up on Apple products. I love my 2016 iPad Pro and would love to replace it with the 11" 2018 model, but I also love my Sony MDR 7506 headphones and I'm unwilling to trash them for wireless earpods that cost a good bit more than I paid for my Sony headphones. No thanks. Similar deal for iPhone (and the shit keyboa…

Apple's insistence that I should use wireless for audio is a large reason I'm doubling down on Apple products. I don't need the tangled messes of headphone wires or the extra opportunities for water ingress. Please please let's get rid of wired audio!

This. The experience was good enough for most people even for AirPod Gen 1. Battery needs improvement though, and I am sure AirPod 2 will be even better in Audio Quality and ease of use.

And hopefully someday the cost and prices of AirPod will be much lower or even included with iPhone.

Re: AirPods

#212

Post by ksec » Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 6:15 PM UTC

weehobbes wrote: post #150

azhenley wrote: post #12

The big additions: 50% more talk time, hands free Siri, and a new optional wireless charging case.

Just curious, anyone using Siri regularly these days? If so, how/for what? I keep trying Siri every once in a while but it doesn’t seem to stick. Only use I find is setting an alarm now and then, but I still often just open the app to do it manually.

Not regularly. But one interesting function I had with it was when I cant locate my phone in my home. I just shout out "Hey Siri" and I can tell by its answer where about it is. It may sound silly but there are countless times when I am about to leave home in a hurry and I cant find my phone. Normally I could have been extremely frustrated and spend minutes looking for it. Now it is just there within a voice command.

Re: AirPods

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Post by bspammer » Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 6:53 PM UTC

taspeotis wrote: post #25

DJBunnies wrote: post #6

All it takes is one odd jostle on your morning commute, and suddenly your $150 headphones fly down a storm drain. Why can't we have high quality wired headsets?

PSA: AirPods don’t fall out of your ears.

While I personally have no problems, I know a few people who can't keep them in. It seems to be very much based on if you're lucky enough to have the ear shape that Apple decided to target.

Re: AirPods

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Post by likeclockwork » Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 6:55 PM UTC

ponyous wrote: post #172

lbacaj wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other headphones don’t necessarily have a CPU in them.

I just can't take your opinion seriously. I believe you will be strongly biased towards Apple. Why? 1. Headphones have CPU and you call it a platform. Almost every digital watch (not smart watch) has a CPU and nobody I know calls it a platform. Can you build on top of AirPods? 2. > seemingly everyone on every train has them on Seemingly everyone? Not sure about NY but in London Apple is succeeding because of the fanb…

No specific technology exists until Apple releases it as a product and then Apple has invented it.

Re: AirPods

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 8:05 PM UTC

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #152

I think the easiest way to make a lot of money in the actual market for personal tech products is to double down on whatever HN and Reddit claims to hate. I suppose it's just sampling bias, but the more hate I see here, the more money Apple makes, and it's been consistent for many years. The inverse seems to hold true, too. When Microsoft hardware gets discussed, there's usually a lot of effusive praise, but their ma…

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Re: AirPods

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Post by wmeredith » Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 8:30 PM UTC

kkapelon wrote: post #180

metafunctor wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's insistence that I should use wireless for audio is a large reason I'm doubling down on Apple products. I don't need the tangled messes of headphone wires or the extra opportunities for water ingress. Please please let's get rid of wired audio!

Wireless audio still has latency. It is very noticeable in games and movies. Until they solve that problem first, wired solutions will always be needed.

What? I have a couple thousand hours on my PS4 with A Sony PS Gold Bluetooth headset, and it is an absolutely awesome setup. (No affiliation, I just like them. I’m on my second pair over the course of about 5 years.)

Re: AirPods

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Post by shard » Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 8:40 PM UTC

pizza wrote: post #15

hawkingrip wrote: post #2

$159 is really too expensive

I gather that not every competitor’s wireless earbuds are quite as good as AirPods, but of those that are, how much do they cost? I would assume they’re still over/roughly a hundred bucks. Maybe we just need a little more competition (and a tiny battery miracle) before these are anywhere near as affordable as wired earbuds.

Xiaomi AirDots were just announced at ~$15: https://www.google.com/amp/s/liliputing.com/2019/03/xiaomi-l...

Re: AirPods

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Post by intended » Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 8:42 PM UTC

gumby wrote: post #60

dkersten wrote: post #29

Apple's insistence that I should use wireless for my ear/headphone needs is a large reason why I'm giving up on Apple products. I love my 2016 iPad Pro and would love to replace it with the 11" 2018 model, but I also love my Sony MDR 7506 headphones and I'm unwilling to trash them for wireless earpods that cost a good bit more than I paid for my Sony headphones. No thanks. Similar deal for iPhone (and the shit keyboa…

They hardly insist -- you can just get an adaptor to lightning if you'd prefer, which isn't much compared to the price of the iPad.

Oh good god, that adapter.

I can’t charge and listen to music. Phone low on battery? Hey guess what! Don’t you wish you has just bought our expensive blue tooth speakers?

NO. If I want actual sound I’ll get it from people who love for sound.

Re: AirPods

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Post by dkersten » Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 8:58 PM UTC

mstolpm wrote: post #99

dkersten wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just what I need, another adapter that I have to remember to bring with me, not lose etc. Plus the one on Apples website doesn't allow you to charge while the adapter is plugged in, so its either headphone jack or charging cable. No, I do not want this. Besides, for all of Apples space/thin-saving attempts, requiring me to use an adapter negates all of these completely.

It seems to me that not Apple is forcing you to go wireless, you just don't want change. If I look around me in the streets, I see more wireless earpieces (not only from Apple) than wired ones in use. Looks like the mainstream loves going the Bluetooth route (and ditching cables and dongles).

But why should I want change if what they had before works better for me, personally, than what they want me to want? Wireless is all well and good, but I have enough things that run out of battery or get misplaced, so while I understand that its a super convenient technology for some people, for others like me, its unhelpful. Apples previous products were close to perfect for my use cases, but their new ones miss the mark, so they can have a millimeter thinner phones, or push their expensive earphones or whatever. Plus I like my existing headphones and don't want to replace them at this time.

Re: AirPods

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Post by coldtea » Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 9:32 PM UTC

elagost wrote: post #179

coldtea wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a case to be made for their shortcomings, but this is more of a "No wireless, less space than a Nomad. Lame" style critique, not seeing anything about their unique proposition, and criticizing them for what they are not even supposed to be (e.g. high-end or noise cancelling). Some of those things are not faults with the Airpods, but personal taste which can be satisfied with another headphone/brand. > These a…

First off, I just want to be clear - not trying to sound confrontational, but I want to respond because I'm having fun reading and thinking about your comments. >Compared to what, your "over-ear" set? Yeah, that's the comparison I was making. The airpods didn't provide any functional upgrade over earpods (or any set of cheap wired headphones with a remote/mic in them) for me. The airpods made things harder. The doubl…

>Airpods require me to stop using them to charge. Nothing else I have is like this - phones, iPods, laptops, or other bluetooth headphones.

That goes with the form factor (which is the main selling point for its other benefits, mainly freedom from cables when using them), not some special problem of the airpods themselves.