Will be on board as soon as it has an app.
For now at least it is a "web first" experience.
I think more things should be "web first". Today even Reddit keeps tirelessly pushing an app - for a web site!
Pixelfed – An alternative to centralized image sharing platforms
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Re: Pixelfed – An alternative to centralized image sharing platforms
#92The social network Mastodon, also based on a Free Software and using Fediverse, reached 2M+ uses recently https://carlchenet.com/do-not-ignore-the-mastodon-social-net...
PixelFed has a possible awesome future ahead!
Re: Pixelfed – An alternative to centralized image sharing platforms
#93On first glance, looks like a decentralized Instagram. A couple of questions: - What is the business model? If millions of people are on this and there's no ads/monetization -- how is the service covering costs? - If people had to pay, then it might limit adoption, how are you going to handle that? - How are you guys thinking about support, monitoring content (removing illegal/copyrighted content)
I would add a longer 4th one:
- If an instance is going to shut down for any reason, how you can handle your account and your content? Do you lose all your follower base and/or content? Can you transfer your account to another instance?
Questions about the whole federated ecosystem that I never saw answered completely.
Re: Pixelfed – An alternative to centralized image sharing platforms
#94I clicked the link and... have no idea what this is. It looks like instagram maybe? I can't even figure out how to figure out what it is. The only clickable thing I see is "@admin" which just takes me to what looks like an Instagram page. It doesn't even mention fediverse on that page, and even if it did, you'd have to know what the fediverse is. This feels like a huge barrier to adoption for them beyond the nerdiest…
> I clicked the link and... have no idea what this is.
To be quite honest that's the same reaction I had when I first landed on Instagram's homepage. Then of course, everybody was talking about it...
Re: Pixelfed – An alternative to centralized image sharing platforms
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no corporation and no business model, and that's by design. Each instance can do what it wants regarding covering the cost of running the server. I plan to set up my own instance on my modest homelab for family and friends, and will not charge anything. Some bigger instances might choose to offer a certain amount of free storage before requiring to pitch in to cover the costs. My guess is that a big majority…
Moderation is important in today's world, compare the massive work twitter, instagram et al have had to do as a result of the Christchurch massacre. How does this scenario work with pixelfed? I take it that the content is hosted on a specific server and that the pixelfed app is just a frontend that knows how to find that server. Is abuse reporting built in to the app somehow? How does the end user know that action is…
The content is stored on servers run independently from each other and they usually operate with slightly (and sometimes wildly) different rules.
Users can report posts which then has to be looked at by the mods on that specific instance/server. Since most servers have a modest amount of users, and a relatively high moderator to user ratio, moderation becomes quite manageable.
Re: Pixelfed – An alternative to centralized image sharing platforms
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Which pod do I choose? That is actually a great UX question. For federated services how do you think we best solve this? I mean everyone wants to just not pick one. But different loss suits people better in terms of location/interests/something else. UX folks, what patterns would you suggest to help solve this?
Funny enough, choosing a node wasn't such a show-stopper for users ten years ago and before. I've used local email services in my backwater town, hanged out on local forums. The entirety of Fidonet was built on people connecting to their acquaintances—and it was rather popular here almost until the 2000s. As for the present, I'm sorta baffled that the anarchic dream of decentralization turned into not-quite-that-cool…
That's easily done now with personal backups, and can be added onto any federated network that gains enough popularity. Mastadon is probably approaching that.
Re: Pixelfed – An alternative to centralized image sharing platforms
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which email provider do I choose? Email is a mature example of a federated system, and so if there is an answer to the general question, I'd expect we'll have figured it out in the context of email. So... what's the "general strategy for picking an email provider?"
Until recently most people just took the provider that cane with their isp because they were usually tied together. It was either that or AOL. Nowawadys it’s either hotmail/office365/whatever other name it has or gmail. It used to be a federated system and still sort of is, but your experience is vastly diminished if you aren’t using one of the biggest providers because you’ll have deliverability problems.
I've had these issues myself, and know the "stereotype comes from somewhere", but...does anyone work off of anything besides anecdata in discussion re: the stats behind this position? It's very defeatist.
Re: Pixelfed – An alternative to centralized image sharing platforms
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no corporation and no business model, and that's by design. Each instance can do what it wants regarding covering the cost of running the server. I plan to set up my own instance on my modest homelab for family and friends, and will not charge anything. Some bigger instances might choose to offer a certain amount of free storage before requiring to pitch in to cover the costs. My guess is that a big majority…
Moderation is important in today's world, compare the massive work twitter, instagram et al have had to do as a result of the Christchurch massacre. How does this scenario work with pixelfed? I take it that the content is hosted on a specific server and that the pixelfed app is just a frontend that knows how to find that server. Is abuse reporting built in to the app somehow? How does the end user know that action is…
OT: Does anyone in NZ reading this agree with that standpoint?
Re: Pixelfed – An alternative to centralized image sharing platforms
#99I think I understand the mission: A federated alternative to instagram where anybody can create a server which is accessible to other users on the fediverse network (doesn't have to be pixelfed). But I don't think this is the right approach. If the public really wants to compete with large internet corporations then there needs to be a single non-profit organization akin to the Wikimedia Foundation which runs these s…
> Wikimedia Foundation which runs these social media applications.
Then you just moved the centralization to a different entity. Wikipedia has plenty of problems, power plays, politics, bullshit process, bias etc.
Re: Pixelfed – An alternative to centralized image sharing platforms
#100Will be on board as soon as it has an app.
For now at least it is a "web first" experience. I think more things should be "web first". Today even Reddit keeps tirelessly pushing an app - for a web site!
Instagram is an app first, website second. As an Instagram clone that's primarily how I intend to use it as well.