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Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by beatgammit »

pmoriarty wrote: post #490
jessemillar wrote: post #129

> With this update, Firefox is introducing scroll anchoring, which ensures that you’re not going to bounce around on the page as these slow-loading ads load. While I love the idea of videos not automatically playing, I'm almost more excited for the scroll anchoring feature.

A similar annoyance: the browser insisting on switching focus once the page loads. It happens nearly daily that I'll be typing in to an input field while the page is still loading, and Firefox will switch focus away from that input field when the page finishes loading. The consequences of this are even worse for me, as I use the Tridactyl extension, which acts on vim-keystrokes when the focus is not in an input field…

That's actually the reason I stopped using VIM bindings in FF. The small amount of niceness from VIM bindings did not make up for the random annoyances.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by keyle »

bobbyi_settv wrote: post #414

I love that we continue to refer to private/ incognito browsing as something mainly used "when you’re planning a surprise party or gift".

I use incognito when logging into my banks because I don't 100% trust the ad blockers and other extensions.

That said now that I know banks have google analytics in them, I really wonder whether I'm better off trusting the extensions.......

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by beatgammit »

asdff wrote: post #349
ghostly_s wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've pretty much entirely gone back to pirating because of those fucking auto-play trailers they have now (and this is on the Roku app, where Firefox wont' help me).

Looking for a specific thing is such a pain. Is it on netflix? Nope. 2 minutes loading the prime video app. Is it on there? Yeah, 3.99 for the privilege of streaming for a couple days. 2 minutes checking hulu. Nope. 2 minutes loading the HBOGO app. Not there either. Turns out, it was on showtime, the one service I don't have access to. If its not there I'll pirate without hesitation. The only inconvenience is the tim…

I have my computer streaming to my TV (minidlna), so no more HDMI cables for me :)

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by yowlingcat »

tzhenghao wrote: post #394

I think the core problem is still tab clutter. Every time I hop onto my iPad to do some light browsing, I have less anxiety. I don't keep many tabs open on mobile/tablet, but I'm already counting 8 opened here as I'm typing on my laptop. Sure, almost everything mentioned in the article is problematic. Then again, maybe it's just us programmed to hit Ctrl-T too much over a decade...

OneTab on Chrome has been pretty nice for this. If it's something I want to keep, I'll close out a couple tabs that aren't useful and then OneTab the whole thing and put a lid on it. Ironically, despite saving everything, I've found that I rarely return to OneTab saves...

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by BrandonM »

tzhenghao wrote: post #394

I think the core problem is still tab clutter. Every time I hop onto my iPad to do some light browsing, I have less anxiety. I don't keep many tabs open on mobile/tablet, but I'm already counting 8 opened here as I'm typing on my laptop. Sure, almost everything mentioned in the article is problematic. Then again, maybe it's just us programmed to hit Ctrl-T too much over a decade...

I stuck with Firefox through Chrome's peak due to Tree-Style Tab. It makes all the difference in terms of tab anxiety, IMO.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by shivo »

brink wrote: post #153
jessemillar wrote: post #129

> With this update, Firefox is introducing scroll anchoring, which ensures that you’re not going to bounce around on the page as these slow-loading ads load. While I love the idea of videos not automatically playing, I'm almost more excited for the scroll anchoring feature.

Same. Have you ever tried to click a link only to accidentally click something else because the page won't stop loading? It's infuriating.

CNET, ZDNet etc

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by abrowne »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #385
abrowne wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AIUI, Mozilla is rewriting the address bar ("QuantumBar"), and you can now toggle it on in Nightly by setting browser.urlbar.quantumbar to true in about:config. I've only tried it on Linux, but it seems smoother.

When did the "Awesome Bar" become the "Quantum Bar", what's the difference, and why can't they call it the "address bar" (yes despite it being overloaded with other functions)?

It's this rewrite specifically that's called QuantumBar.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by noglorp »

airstrike wrote: post #221
brink wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. Have you ever tried to click a link only to accidentally click something else because the page won't stop loading? It's infuriating.

This happens to me every single day on the Windows 10 start menu and on my iPhone using the swipe-down search on the Home screen. Why in God's green Earth the developers who implemented these don't cache obvious local results (like app names) to quickly return them is beyond me, and why the position of the results has to move after the fact is even more maddening I typed "Arro" for an app I use last night, it took a…

Better yet is when you type "Ar" looking for "Arrow" and get

1) Arrow

2) Arboles

3) Area

And then type another 'r' before you realize your result is there ("Arr") and as you go to select "Arrow" the auto-suggest results turn into

1) Array

2) Arrogant

3) Arrow

Like, how does adding the second 'r' make "Array" higher probability than "Arrow"?!

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by JoshTriplett »

rayiner wrote: post #368
JoshTriplett wrote: post #172

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Networks are thousands of times faster in bandwidth, but they don't have thousands of times less latency. Software is actively working to overcome the limitations of latency, such as with HTTP/2, HTTP/3, and TLS 1.3.

For a page load, why should latency matter once you get below 50 ms? The problem isn’t latency, the problem is that the software stack makes tons of round-trip requests to display some text and images. The modern web makes X11 seem like it was designed by a demoscene coder.

> The problem isn’t latency, the problem is that the software stack makes tons of round-trip requests to display some text and images.

From the post you replied to:

> Software is actively working to overcome the limitations of latency, such as with HTTP/2, HTTP/3, and TLS 1.3.

The whole point is to eliminate those round-trips, and just stream content to the browser at the limit of its available bandwidth.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by baroffoos »

noglorp wrote: post #508
airstrike wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This happens to me every single day on the Windows 10 start menu and on my iPhone using the swipe-down search on the Home screen. Why in God's green Earth the developers who implemented these don't cache obvious local results (like app names) to quickly return them is beyond me, and why the position of the results has to move after the fact is even more maddening I typed "Arro" for an app I use last night, it took a…

Better yet is when you type "Ar" looking for "Arrow" and get 1) Arrow 2) Arboles 3) Area And then type another 'r' before you realize your result is there ("Arr") and as you go to select "Arrow" the auto-suggest results turn into 1) Array 2) Arrogant 3) Arrow Like, how does adding the second 'r' make "Array" higher probability than "Arrow"?!

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