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Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by mort96 »

mushufasa wrote: post #196
brink wrote: post #153

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Same. Have you ever tried to click a link only to accidentally click something else because the page won't stop loading? It's infuriating.

this has been happening to me recently on Google search, as cards load with info about the top results. Anyone on Google reading this -- please either cut that out, or include css placeholders for content you expect your JS to load. Both waiting longer for content to load and having to go back from clicking the wrong thing detract from the raison d'etre of fast and relevant search.

I'm constantly annoyed by that horrible feature too. It usually doesn't cause a misclick anymore, but it's really annoying that every time I go back to look a the next search result, the result moves once I've moved my cursor to the result I want to click.

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Post by xkcd-sucks »

glenneroo wrote: post #310
dman wrote: post #258

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Netflix keeps making their UI worse, to the point where its unbearable now.

You would think by the comments here from Netflix employees that one or two of them would appreciate our feedback and pass some of it on to higher-ups. Or perhaps management already knows and deliberately makes these decisions based on internal metrics and HN folks are essentially a non-existent blip on their radar... EDIT: I also regularly leave feedback using the ? button (only available in Watch mode) but it seems…

Metric: Stuff that techies like deliberately leaves money on the table

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by paavoova »

cmurf wrote: post #289
vetinari wrote: post #110

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Under linux with apt/dnf. These package managers update Firefox while it is running. On MacOS or Windows (maybe even Linux with the Mozilla updater, never tried it), the updater does the update on the next restart.

Exactly. The package manager method of updating stomps on the in-use libraries for the running application. The built-in Mozilla updater knows better, downloads an update payload but doesn't apply it until the user relaunches and on "first run" it actually does the update rather than launching, and after that completes it launches the updated application. It's the same on macOS, Windows, and Linux. Chrome on macOS an…

> for whatever reason Chrome on Linux installs a google.chrome repository, uses the distro package manager

Because that's the proper way to do things instead of each application bypassing the package manager and downloading updates and whatever else behind your back. How would you track and control updates if each application you use decided to do its own thing? Secondly, if installed to system directories, applications cannot write there without superuser privileges.

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Post by calcifer »

clb4mf wrote: post #330
xattt wrote: post #128

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I’ve commented about this before, specifically about Firefox on OS X, but the sentiment seems to be that “you’re using it wrong”.

Some (most?) people have no eye for design and simply don't notice stuff like that. Until recently Firefox's URL bar had a THICK blue glow when it was in focus, instead of the more subtle one the rest of Mac OS has. It infuriated me. They didn't fix it for years. Why? Because nobody noticed it or cared enough, I guess.

> It infuriated me. They didn't fix it for years.

"They didn't fix it" implies someone reported it as a bug. Even if no one did, if you were infuriated by it, surely you did, right?

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Post by rasmussondk »

Vinnl wrote: post #345
toflon wrote: post #266

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I know it's not the same, but if you bookmark " https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%s" and put in a keyword like "yt". You can type "yt whatever" in the addressbar and it will do a search on youtube.

And if you set DuckDuckGo or Qwant or a different search engine that supports !bangs as your default search engine, you can use those in your address bar - so no need to configure !yt, !w, !s etc manually.

https://www.givero.com has the full range of DDG bangs - and shares its revenue with good causes.

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Post by technobabble »

asdff wrote: post #349
ghostly_s wrote: post #215

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I've pretty much entirely gone back to pirating because of those fucking auto-play trailers they have now (and this is on the Roku app, where Firefox wont' help me).

Looking for a specific thing is such a pain. Is it on netflix? Nope. 2 minutes loading the prime video app. Is it on there? Yeah, 3.99 for the privilege of streaming for a couple days. 2 minutes checking hulu. Nope. 2 minutes loading the HBOGO app. Not there either. Turns out, it was on showtime, the one service I don't have access to. If its not there I'll pirate without hesitation. The only inconvenience is the tim…

https://www.justwatch.com/

I use it on occasion instead of doing the 2 minute search dance.

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Post by pwg »

rayiner wrote: post #368
JoshTriplett wrote: post #172

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Networks are thousands of times faster in bandwidth, but they don't have thousands of times less latency. Software is actively working to overcome the limitations of latency, such as with HTTP/2, HTTP/3, and TLS 1.3.

For a page load, why should latency matter once you get below 50 ms? The problem isn’t latency, the problem is that the software stack makes tons of round-trip requests to display some text and images. The modern web makes X11 seem like it was designed by a demoscene coder.

> For a page load, why should latency matter

> he problem is that the software stack makes tons of round-trip requests

Latency matters because of all of those round-trip requests. Each individual request incurs at least 2x the network latency value (one network latency trip out to the server, another network latency trip back). If browsers did not try to run parallel requests, then all those round trips would sum up to a substantial overall delay.

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Post by megous »

wongarsu wrote: post #95
megous wrote: post #76

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In many cases you want to set one size and let the other calculate itself based on the aspect ratio of an image. And this is not know prior to loading and can't be specified in any other way. So you get jumpy behavior during load on most responsive websites and slow connections. It's hard to fix in JS too.

If only there was a way to know the aspect ratio of an image at the time of website authoring...

Doesn't help if you try to do max-width: 100% in CSS. You'll get an image with a height you set in HTML and a smaller width.
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