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Kickstarter’s staff is unionizing

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Re: Kickstarter’s staff is unionizing

#41

So if they succeed, does that mean nobody can work for Kickstarter unless they are part of the union?

I don't know how unions work in the US, but most unions in the UK fund a single political party, which means you could be forced to pay to support a party with views you find abhorrent in order to work, so I hope not.

At least you have a vote in the union, unlike when your employer decides to use the products of your labor to lobby for policies or support parties you find abhorrent.

Re: Kickstarter’s staff is unionizing

#42
post #24

This is fantastic news. I'm one of the software engineers who was fired for organizing a union at a SF/DC based startup last year. The National Labor Relations Board found in our favor and we won a large cash settlement. But what we wanted was a union. Seeing others pick up the torch is extremely gratifying. Below are some links to news coverage of our case. https://gist.github.com/bwestergard/a77744dc6f3095fd3fb769d…

From the gist found the article: http://www.newsguild.org/mediaguild3/software-company-learns... $775k for 15 people especially SF based I wouldn't exactly call that a large cash settlement considering what happened, rep damage, time to find new work, etc. Just had expectations of at least a year salary per person.

It was approximately $20k per person and the difference between the wages they earned after being fired and the wages they would have earned had they not been fired. Some of my coworkers did end up getting substantial amounts of backpay.

But your point stands: this is a weak remedy, and completely out of line with international norms.

Re: Kickstarter’s staff is unionizing

#43

So if they succeed, does that mean nobody can work for Kickstarter unless they are part of the union?

I don't know how unions work in the US, but most unions in the UK fund a single political party, which means you could be forced to pay to support a party with views you find abhorrent in order to work, so I hope not.

Due to a supreme court case you can opt out of having your union dues used to support the political machinations of your union.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2015/08/26/not-just-in...

Re: Kickstarter’s staff is unionizing

#44

So if they succeed, does that mean nobody can work for Kickstarter unless they are part of the union?

I don't know how unions work in the US, but most unions in the UK fund a single political party, which means you could be forced to pay to support a party with views you find abhorrent in order to work, so I hope not.

You aren’t forced to pay the political levy in the UK, you can opt in/out.

Re: Kickstarter’s staff is unionizing

#45
It will be interesting to see what this does for developer salaries at Kickstarter. If, as a top performer, I get penalized by joining the union then obviously Kickstarter looks less attractive to me. For unions in our industry to work they are going to have to be very explicit about how they are going to raise developer salaries.

Re: Kickstarter’s staff is unionizing

#46
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has being in the news as an organizer significantly harmed your job search?

Here's an interesting question: The NLRB says you can't fire someone for union organizing, but does it say you can't refuse to hire someone for union organizing?

Yes, under section 8(a)(3) of the National Labor Relations act. The NLRB publishes a helpful guide to your rights: https://www.nlrb.gov/sites/default/files/attachments/basic-p...

Re: Kickstarter’s staff is unionizing

#48
"America’s political climate is changing; among other things, the 2016 presidential election brought up the issue of wealth inequality in this country and made people consider more closely the structural forces that define class here."

What on earth does the 2016 election have to do with wealth inequality (or unions for that matter)? Inequality has been on the rise for decades and Clinton was also a member of the 1%. This seems like a non-sequitur.

Re: Kickstarter’s staff is unionizing

#50

If Kickstarter can do it, the game industry can do it! Come on, game industry, it's your time to unionize!

It'll never happen so long as there are "gamers" who want to work in the industry they "love", unfortunately.

Why not? The US film industry is mostly unionized, and there's tons of people who love movies, too.
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