Does this include Netflix? It's been getting really annoying to have random videos your mouse is on, as you scroll, start playing automatically.
Netflix keeps making their UI worse, to the point where its unbearable now.
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#322I have been using Firefox on macOS for a while but firefox is not well-integrated with the OS. Scrolling, downloading files, playing video/audio and many more have different convention from Safari/Chrome. Also, I am trying to avoid using Firefox on battery because it is a killer.
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#323Reposting from the other thread: Slowly but surely the creative potential of the web is eroded until nothing is left but plain text and ads, to thunderous applause. Gross overreaction after gross overreaction and now we're in a state where extensions are a shallow husk of their former glory, you need to jump through legally vague ridiculous hoops to do anything involving user data, a vast trove of great Flash content…
You're advocating for auto-playing videos and sound, proprietary resource-gobbling flash content, and the nonconsensual abuse of user data? Yes, what a golden age that was. It is a much more persuasive argument that the new controls are simply a reaction to bad actors who corrupted the value the original web provided. Sure, when the internet was a smaller village, nobody needed to lock their door: but then the villag…
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
What more features? All can be done in javascript, without making users install garbage, without spending extra resources. I prefer companies spend their resources on improving the product instead of implementing same thing thrice. What most people dont realize is web apps are a boon to linux people. Most companies would not develop for linux at all.
> What more features? Support for most platform APIs? > I prefer companies spend their resources on improving the product instead of implementing same thing thrice. Funny, this is exactly my issue with web apps. I don't want to use software where the engineers have done a poor job reimplementing things the system provides for free.
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure if I'd call it my favorite anymore but I probably use reddit the most. I'm thinking of golden age in terms of the power available to webpages/browsers. This would be when HTML5/webgl/etc features had just gotten implemented, plugins like Flash and Java were still supported, and Firefox used the old extension system. All of the old web was still there alongside the cool new stuff. Now the old stuff is gon…
Reddit, I can see that. Would you want a reddit where every embedded video in a thread auto played though? I'm guessing our disagreement is over who has final say over display of content? I would say the client, you would say the server (or creator)? Is that fair?
On the subject of Reddit I do find it unnecessarily burdensome that I have to give Reddit Enhancement Suite permission for every individual domain that it wants to embed stuff from, another place where I feel like browsers went too far locking themselves down.
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#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
Netflix keeps making their UI worse, to the point where its unbearable now.
You would think by the comments here from Netflix employees that one or two of them would appreciate our feedback and pass some of it on to higher-ups. Or perhaps management already knows and deliberately makes these decisions based on internal metrics and HN folks are essentially a non-existent blip on their radar... EDIT: I also regularly leave feedback using the ? button (only available in Watch mode) but it seems…
I'm sure they are. And as long as Netflix posts above-estimated profits and/or revenues, it doesn't matter one wit. (whit?)
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same. Have you ever tried to click a link only to accidentally click something else because the page won't stop loading? It's infuriating.
I'm pretty sure that A/B-testing shows an increase in ad engagement. Clearly, jumpy layouts must put users in a more positive, open mindset!
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
Netflix keeps making their UI worse, to the point where its unbearable now.
You would think by the comments here from Netflix employees that one or two of them would appreciate our feedback and pass some of it on to higher-ups. Or perhaps management already knows and deliberately makes these decisions based on internal metrics and HN folks are essentially a non-existent blip on their radar... EDIT: I also regularly leave feedback using the ? button (only available in Watch mode) but it seems…
1. It struck me at some point that Netflix UI is carefully designed to hide the fact on how little content they really have now. If you go into different genres at times there are barely 40-50 things you can watch (sometimes much lesser). They have lost a ton of items from their catalog (A queue I had which had ~85 items has dropped to 3 items without me removing anything because of shows / movies being removed). If you think of content that in the past would be > 4 stars, you will see most categories have 2. Netflix UI is now optimized only for surfacing the 3-4 new shows they launched this month.
3. The autoplay feature (with an impossibly short hover timeout ) appears to be an output of a quantitative metric based engagement maximization process. I suspect they have some charts internally which measure engagement and this specific design hits some local optimum there.
4. Lastly, as a world cinema movie buff I do not think I am the audience anymore. The long tail of delightful movies from across the world is long gone.
I wish them well, they were immensely educational when I first moved to the US. Growing up in India I never had the means to see cinema from across the world, so a service that would allow me to go through various best movies lists and see them two movies a week at a time was magical.
Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances
#329Reposting from the other thread: Slowly but surely the creative potential of the web is eroded until nothing is left but plain text and ads, to thunderous applause. Gross overreaction after gross overreaction and now we're in a state where extensions are a shallow husk of their former glory, you need to jump through legally vague ridiculous hoops to do anything involving user data, a vast trove of great Flash content…
I know you're being facetious, but I liked the internet so much better when I used to browse with images off by default. It could be that I was an optimistic 14 year old, or even simple nostalgia, but the internet felt like a cool friendly place back then.
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#330I have been using Firefox on macOS for a while but firefox is not well-integrated with the OS. Scrolling, downloading files, playing video/audio and many more have different convention from Safari/Chrome. Also, I am trying to avoid using Firefox on battery because it is a killer.
I’ve commented about this before, specifically about Firefox on OS X, but the sentiment seems to be that “you’re using it wrong”.
Until recently Firefox's URL bar had a THICK blue glow when it was in focus, instead of the more subtle one the rest of Mac OS has. It infuriated me. They didn't fix it for years. Why? Because nobody noticed it or cared enough, I guess.