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Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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Post by agumonkey »

agumonkey wrote: post #157
kbutler wrote: post #143

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Friedman's example is more an illustration that when we want to design a replacement for a working system, there is often a lot more complexity than expected - reinvented wheels are often square. Your example ends up with a piece of charcoal that doesn't have an eraser, gives you slivers, gets charcoal all over, has to be burnt every time you need to sharpen it (with a market-produced lighter or matches), doesn't wor…

you don't need a lighter to make fire, and you don't need to sharpen, you regrind. j2ee is an example of mass mistook for an example of good. It was taught as the ultimate goal to marvel at the complexity of the remote objects.

you don't need a lighter to make fire, and you don't need to sharpen, you regrind. j2ee is an example of mass mistook for an example of good. It was taught as the ultimate goal to marvel at the complexity of the remote objects.

ps: if I had to glorify something it's globalization incentives to improve metrology. Precision is what gives you modern things.

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

Narishma wrote: post #134
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #68

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Yeah! Looks exciting. I will say that the Raspberry Pi is USB 2, so bandwidth between , say, your camera and the Movidius Stick is limited. The google device and this one should have proper high bandwidth interfaces.

Doesn't the Raspberry Pi camera use the CSI connector? If not, why?

It does, but the movidius stick is USB.

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

classichasclass wrote: post #77
lostlogin wrote: post #64

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The Power Mac G4 was was briefly a restricted export due to its power (late 90s). This, obviously, gave ultimate childhood bragging rights. https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.wired.com/2002/01/thats-a...

Apple's ad on that was maximum snark. As tanks surround a graphite G4, the announcer deadpans, "Pentium PCs? Well ... they're harmless."

The 386 was also export controlled for a time.

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Post by EForEndeavour »

agumonkey wrote: post #154
EForEndeavour wrote: post #131

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Friedman does wax lyrical about his beloved market toward the end of that video, but the main point I drew from his quote about the pencil is that it's absolutely mind-blowing to stop and contemplate the incredible cooperation and pre-existing systems required to construct so many of the mundane, dirt-cheap objects of the modern world. The fact that someone could eschew mass-produced lead pencils in favour of a self-…

After viewing primitive technology and crafting videos I'm convinced of the opposite. Culture makes you think that only mass market can do that.

I feel that again misses the point. Sure, it's perfectly possible for a resourceful and knowledgable human to hand-engineer various tools from the environment. But to make something very much like an ordinary pencil made of wood, graphite, rubber, metal, and paint would be a monumental task, far beyond the cost of a pencil in our established society.

The fact is that globalization and industrialization has democratized the construction of literal artifacts. Consider the single-use plastic bottle, with a precisely machined screw neck and matching lid. It's lightweight, transparent, and will last for years. It would be exceedingly difficult to find and process the raw material to craft such an artifact from scratch, yet millions of them per day are used once and discarded.

Same goes for most office supplies, now that I think of it. And we haven't even touched integrated circuits yet.

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Post by make3 »

outlace wrote: post #57
make3 wrote: post #42

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there is no reason to train on that thing (except for zero shot classification demos). any cheap/lower end Nvidia gpu would do a much better job, and you would then transfer the model to the embedded thing.

Would it do better than a CPU for training? I do my dev on a MacBook Air and use AWS for training, if this cheap gpu will be a few times faster than my Air CPU than I’d be willing to get it. I usually work with medium sized models/data, too big for CPU but don’t need a multi gpu cluster.

Google colab gpu instances are free and likely faster than the jetson (and definitely faster then typical laptop or desktop cpu only training), just save the models to your gdrive

https://colab.research.google.com/notebooks/welcome.ipynb#re...

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Post by make3 »

anonymousDan wrote: post #132
make3 wrote: post #42

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there is no reason to train on that thing (except for zero shot classification demos). any cheap/lower end Nvidia gpu would do a much better job, and you would then transfer the model to the embedded thing.

Can you recommend a cheap/lower end Nvidia GPU for training for someone who just wants to play around with NNs a bit and isn't interested in peak performance? Could I get something for $100 that would be better than my CPU?

the other options is Google's free gpu instances on it's colab notebooks https://colab.research.google.com/notebooks/welcome.ipynb#re...

that's what I would recommend for your budget probably

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Post by mbushey »

digsy wrote: post #16
01100011 wrote: post #7

I wish these tiny SBCs came with SATA or m.2 so I could hook up an SSD. I know microSD is catching up, but it's not there yet.

Odroid H2 has 2 X SATA 3.0 - https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h2/ A number of others have mini PCIE that you can add a PCIE SATA board to - https://www.amazon.com/Port-Controller-AsMedia-ASM1061-Chips...

I bought an Odriod once. It was DOA and at the insane shipping prices I just took it as a lesson learned to never buy Odroid again. I've gone through probably 20 Pi's and never had one DOA or even die for that matter.
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