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Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Everything old is new again. 'offline' apps, 'local' cloud. Its the future!

Web apps are boon to linux people. Most companies would not even bother developing for linux first

personally I havent found a webapp that I need, or even doesn't just make me think a normal app would be better.

That's not to say I disagree though. The tech world is very good at creating monopolies.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Email clients, sure. Word processors? Only if you're requiring something like Markdown. Video chat seems right out, unless you're permitting a Flash solution, which would be severely cheating.

You can upload and download video streams just fine without any Javascript.

In a browser? We're on a thread talking about Gmail (a web app) in a thread about Firefox.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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> You mean clients i can hardly update, and most often clunky as well? I dont see the improvement. Is better performance and more features not an improvement to you?

What more features? All can be done in javascript, without making users install garbage, without spending extra resources. I prefer companies spend their resources on improving the product instead of implementing same thing thrice. What most people dont realize is web apps are a boon to linux people. Most companies would not develop for linux at all.

> What more features?

Support for most platform APIs?

> I prefer companies spend their resources on improving the product instead of implementing same thing thrice.

Funny, this is exactly my issue with web apps. I don't want to use software where the engineers have done a poor job reimplementing things the system provides for free.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Your maps.apple.com example is perfect: the recipient needs to have an Apple device and Maps.app to see the link. It's like a peek into how things might've been in a dismal alternate reality. Now try this: https://goo.gl/maps/dvhDpd93gJs

Did you try clicking on the link I posted? On my Linux machine, it redirects to Google Maps.

On my Macbook, I don't have the choice. Clicking the link summons a modal that asks me if I want to open Maps.app.

It's strictly worse than just sharing the google maps browser link. And this example even is the best case scenario for a native app: there's a website you can redirect to for people without the app. Though it's a competitor's website, and the website vastly outmatches the native application in features and fidelity.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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I've switched over to Firefox on all devices. It's especially useful on Android because I can use uBlock and other useful extensions, where Chrome doesn't have any. The only feature I hope for is "hit tab to search" after typing a domain name in the search bar. For example in Chrome I can type "youtube.com" and then hit tab, and then type in a search query.

I agree. I would absolutely love tab to search in Firefox. The bookmark keyword is inferior

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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> But the user can. How? I don't think that users even agree what consists of "good" and "bad" JavaScript.

For the simplest possible example, ask any Noscript extension user. For the more advanced things, like identifying the part of Javascript code that brings e.g. 'the fancy eating 40% of the CPU scrollbar' user want to disable, some automation is needed.

I am a NoScript user. I use it to block all JS by default. If a web site won't work properly that way, and the site is somehow really important, I'll work out what the minimum scripts necessary to let the site do what I need is, and just allow those. If the site isn't somehow critical, I just don't use the site.

I have to do it that way because it's very difficult to determine which scripts are bad and which aren't without actually reviewing the JS itself. In my view, "bad" usually means that the script is phoning home in some way.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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> responsive website This theme is discussed here often, but really, this is what HTML was designed for. Load https://thebestmotherfucking.website/ in a browser and scale it at will, it will always look good. The fact that people put a ton of often useless stuff and complain it looks bad in some browser doesn't mean media queries are theonly way.

Great. Now if only all websites used one or two static images with a known size and nothing else.

Frankly, for 99% of them, I wouldn't mind.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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this has been happening to me recently on Google search, as cards load with info about the top results. Anyone on Google reading this -- please either cut that out, or include css placeholders for content you expect your JS to load. Both waiting longer for content to load and having to go back from clicking the wrong thing detract from the raison d'etre of fast and relevant search.

I think I solved it by removing it in stylus: #eobc_1,.r-i4KASL__ToPM,.r-iGs8q6iiSUas{ display:none !important; } I think it was something like "other people also search for..." thing which poped up unexepectedly.

Is there any use in removing these automatically-generated tags? They seem like something that might change the second Google's deployment pipeline pushes a new build (or even sooner).
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