Live data from Hacker News

Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

blog.mozilla.org

151–160 of 574 posts

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

#152
post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We'll probably just have to agree to disagree re: "JS does more harm than good". I have at least 5 progressive webapps open right now, none of which could work without javascript. Of the other 20 websites I have open in other tabs, none are being annoying or aggressive, and I'm not even using an adblocker.

They could be proper applications instead.

They are applications. They run in a safe sandbox in the browser, rather than being all-powerful programs running directly on the system. They allow nuances of trust ("I trust this application with the data I'm giving it") rather than absolute trust ("I trust this application with access to my entire system and all my data").

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

#153

> With this update, Firefox is introducing scroll anchoring, which ensures that you’re not going to bounce around on the page as these slow-loading ads load. While I love the idea of videos not automatically playing, I'm almost more excited for the scroll anchoring feature.

Same. Have you ever tried to click a link only to accidentally click something else because the page won't stop loading? It's infuriating.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

#154
post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could be proper applications instead.

Not really. It's way harder (and therefore the barrier is higher, they'd be less likely to exist, etc) to develop cross platform native applications than it is to just implement them as webapps. If it was just as easy to write and distribute native applications, we'd be doing that, instead of bolting it onto the web. But it's pretty clearly not.

Its the other way round. If web apps didnt exist, there would be more pressure to develop tools that make it easy to write and distribute proper applications.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

#158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation needed. I dont believe gmail would be as useful eithout javascript, docs wouldnt really be possible, i dont think i could video chat with my family without extensions, and so on. Installing apps is really not aomething i want. I am trying to keep apps on my phone low for a reason, browser is actually perfect for most of what i do.

Email clients, word processors and video chat would be very much possible without Javascript.

Email clients, sure.

Word processors? Only if you're requiring something like Markdown.

Video chat seems right out, unless you're permitting a Flash solution, which would be severely cheating.

Post reply on HN