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A new class-action lawsuit takes aim at real estate agents and their 6% fee

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Re: A new class-action lawsuit takes aim at real estate agents and their 6% fee

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This is a big deal for "average" americans. Jack bogle took on the fees eating up retirement plans. Now the next biggest asset has an opportunity to be revamped. While real wages have stagnated, we can lower the costs so those wages go further.

There are 1.3 million Realtors(tm) in the U.S. Imagine what a productivity boon it would be if even half of them switched to gainful employment versus rent extraction via their cartel!

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Good! I find realtors to be parasites. We sold my wife’s house FSBO, which was not hard at all. My mother just bought a house also FSBO.

No parasites involved, and everyone comes out the better. You can always get a real estate lawyer to bless everything.

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The model's pretty broken now, when anyone can look up listings on realtor.com or Redfin, and get customized alerts based on preferences. I mean what special skills do agents even bring on the buy side? I can mediate things with the seller myself, thank you very much. On the sell side, an experienced agent can be much more of a help. Even there, we used Redfin the last time we sold, and the difference in commission w…

Most of the value of a real estate agent is after getting an accepted offer.

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currently, it is illegal to pay anyone a commission for selling your house except a licensed real estate agent. If you got rid of that restriction, imagine the opportunities. you could let your friends sell your house by sharing a link on social media and they could get the commission. Also in England, real estate commission fees are about 1% vs. 6% in US. As the article states, in the US a lot of agents won't show F…

I assume there's some kind of fraud or expensive mistake that this law is designed to address, apart from just rent seeking for realtors. Does anyone have a sense of what those problems are, and whether the market would be better at addressing them now than it was when the laws were passed?

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The model's pretty broken now, when anyone can look up listings on realtor.com or Redfin, and get customized alerts based on preferences. I mean what special skills do agents even bring on the buy side? I can mediate things with the seller myself, thank you very much. On the sell side, an experienced agent can be much more of a help. Even there, we used Redfin the last time we sold, and the difference in commission w…

I purchased my first home in 2017. I absolutely would not have known half of what to do without my agent. In retrospect there are some things that he swept under the rug that I'm paying for now, but all of the paperwork and having someone who knew what to ask for was invaluable. If I was left to my own devices I would have made some probably very stupid offers and lost the chance at my property. This might just be because there is another agent on the other end, but the whole system isn't exactly beginner friendly.

Re: A new class-action lawsuit takes aim at real estate agents and their 6% fee

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As someone who has bought a couple of houses, a buyer's agent mostly provides convenience because they can access the property just as easily as the listing agent.

While agent fees usually run in the thousands of USD, probably the larger source of tacked-on fees is on the mortgage side, especially when the buyer does not have the 20% down.

So not sure if transferring more of the fee load to buyers will help move real estate. After all, except for strong seller's markets or when shopping for a specific type of home, the seller usually has more incentive to sell their home than a buyer has to buy it.

Regarding selling, I'm not sure this development is the realtor kill-shot - I would argue outfits such as Opendoor (convenience) or even Redfin (eliminate realtor fees) probably will inflict more damage to a realtor's income.

Because selling a house is a 100x greater PITA than buying.

Re: A new class-action lawsuit takes aim at real estate agents and their 6% fee

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This may lead to banks and realtors colluding. Instead or the current model we'll get realtor/banks buying properties that go up for sale. Then the realtor/banks will upgrade the cost to a 50% markup. That will of course be after flippers fix the house and other things. But in general, we're see the rich buying out the poor.

And that model will be 100% legal.

Re: A new class-action lawsuit takes aim at real estate agents and their 6% fee

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This may lead to banks and realtors colluding. Instead or the current model we'll get realtor/banks buying properties that go up for sale. Then the realtor/banks will upgrade the cost to a 50% markup. That will of course be after flippers fix the house and other things. But in general, we're see the rich buying out the poor. And that model will be 100% legal.

They could do this right now.

Re: A new class-action lawsuit takes aim at real estate agents and their 6% fee

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Where you stand really depends on where you sit.

My wife recently became an agent, and prior to that I was all about disrupting the industry.

But I’ve come to see the 3% on each side as an almost market clearing price. It’s really hard work, with low barriers to entry, and significant upfront costs.

In a tight market, being a buyers agent can be a blessing or a curse. She’s been working with one client for nearly a year, submitting over 20 offers and going all over the metroplex with nothing to show for it. On the other hand, she’s had buyers who found something within a month. It works out to a decent standard of living, but it takes a long time to develop a pipeline. Most agents quit within a year.

I’m all for disruption, and it’s an industry with a lot of legacy, slow moving players. Buts it also a complex one with lots of challenges on the individual agent level.

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