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Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Still selling brand new machines with 5400 rpm HDs. In 2019. It undermines the brand. Any Mac a customer buys should have good enough performance. 5400 spinning disk hasn’t been fast enough for a decade.

Does it still hold that SSDs are harder to recover data from than HDDs? Or is that out the window?

Restore form backups. Chances are if you're at the point where you're trying to do data recovery you're already hosed.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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My 2017 MacBook pro is definitely my last Apple laptop because it's just too expensive and unreliable (for reasons well discussed on HN). I have definitely considered getting a Mac Mini, but the new iMacs are definitely interesting. One thing I'd be concerned about is cooling. I know the iMac Pros are not ideal from a cooling perspective - I can't imagine an 8 core processor @ 5GHz plus a Radeon Pro GPU runs cool. I'…

I was in a similar situation in late 2017 and ended up getting a 5K iMac since I didn't need portability anymore. Best Mac I've ever had.

The 5K iMac couldn't cool the i7 7700K properly, and since fan noise is extremely annoying for me I got the i5 6500K model. In over a year I've heard the fan a couple of times, but it is silent most of the time. Performance wise, I've never found myself wishing I had gotten the i7. I do mostly dev, but also video editing, photography, and music production as hobbies. Of course I got the SSD and 16GB.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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It seems that the price point of i9+32GB+1TB SSD+Vega 48 is about the same price ($5000) as the baseline iMac Pro. Imac Pro comes with Xeon processor and Vega 56 though. Is the iMac Pro better at this price point?

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Not if the cost savings went into other stuff, like the 4k/5k displays.

Or the CPU. But we're talking an $1800 machine with a 5400rpm disc and 8gb of Ram. That's one hell of a screen and CPU.

It's probably no longer true, but when the 5K iMac came out it was the cheapest way to get a 5K screen. You got the computer for free, essentially.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Apple usually reduces the price even further for educational sales. It has to be cheap when you are selling them for a lab setting. It’s good enough for those settings.

The only time we use it for labs is running Adobe stuff, and given what students want to learn, you do need decent performing machines and something with a 5400 rpm drive is not it.

You know there are colleges all across the world, not just the one you go to....

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Hey Apple! While you're on this upgrade sprint, I wish out of the blue, an iPhone SE 2 is also announced.

The more time passes, the more it looks like they released an SE by mistake, still be best phone ever made IMHO but doesn't fit the strategy of upselling as much as possible.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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I find it curious that Apple is starting to communicate major product updates decoupled from an event. Just good old press releases. Maybe they already have too many announcements to fit into the narrative of the handful of events per year.

They want to talk about services. I guess arguably small iPad and iMac refreshes don't fit into that. I'm curious whether they take this PR option with AirPods 2 / AirPower as well or if those make it to an event.

iPads yesterday, iMacs today, maybe AirPods/AirPower tomorrow. Spreading out announcements is unusual for Apple, perhaps they're trying something new here.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

#229

Did you guys see this? "iMac Pro now available with 256 GB RAM option … for an extra $5200" sort of pricey. https://9to5mac.com/2019/03/19/256-gb-ram-imac-pro/

Looks like it costs $3,381 off-the-shelf: https://www.avadirect.com/256GB-4-x-64GB-Quad-Rank-DDR4-2666...

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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There's tons of competition in the PC space. If nobody makes alternative Mac-like machines people want to buy for cheaper (or if Macs are seen as Veblen goods), that's a different matter. But Apple doesn't charge $4000 for a MacBook Pro for lack of competition in the laptop space. "But only Apple makes MBPs" is not an argument. Only Acer makes Acer machines, and only MS makes Surfaces too.

The argument is that only Apple makes computers that run macOS well. If they would allow macOS to run on other computers (legally), they would face real competition.

>The argument is that only Apple makes computers that run macOS well

Apple also makes macOS. Dell, Acer, and co are free to make their own OS. MS and Google already did. Heck, even some student in Helsinki did IIRC.

Can't blame Apple if people don't want their PC+generic OS bundle and prefer Mac+macOS.

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