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Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by coldtea » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:09 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #18

dmitriid wrote: post #4

The price for upgrading remains as ridiculous as ever (especially if you're not in the US). RAM: 8 GB -> 16 GB is 2200 SEK (239 USD) 8 GB -> 32 GB is 6600 SEK (717 USD) You can get 32GB as low as 1689 SEK (183 USD) on Newegg.

Those price have nothing in common with logic. 16 -> 32: +$400, 32 -> 64: +$400. They just put random prices based on marketing research, not on component cost.

Companies don't price products based on component costs.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by plufz » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:09 PM UTC

tsmarsh wrote: post #15

bluedino wrote: post #3

The CPU increases are welcome, but I was hoping for the rumored 6K displays. No space grey, no T2 chip, no Touchbar. Somehow they still sell the 1080 21" model for $1099.

No touch bar is a win IMHO. I'm not against it per se, but a soft `esc` was a mistake.

Have you tried remapping esc to capslock? (Or ctrl to capslock and esc to ctrl). I would never go back to normal esc.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by geesejuggler » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:09 PM UTC

kmlx wrote: post #17

dmitriid wrote: post #4

The price for upgrading remains as ridiculous as ever (especially if you're not in the US). RAM: 8 GB -> 16 GB is 2200 SEK (239 USD) 8 GB -> 32 GB is 6600 SEK (717 USD) You can get 32GB as low as 1689 SEK (183 USD) on Newegg.

isn't the RAM soldered in on iMacs?

The 21 inch model seems to have RAM slots, but not easily accessible like its larger sibling. The 27 inch has 4 user accessible SO-DIMM slots.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by ceejayoz » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:10 PM UTC

kmlx wrote: post #17

dmitriid wrote: post #4

The price for upgrading remains as ridiculous as ever (especially if you're not in the US). RAM: 8 GB -> 16 GB is 2200 SEK (239 USD) 8 GB -> 32 GB is 6600 SEK (717 USD) You can get 32GB as low as 1689 SEK (183 USD) on Newegg.

isn't the RAM soldered in on iMacs?

In most models there's a door on the back for a quick swap.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201191#install1

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by eckza » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:10 PM UTC

tsmarsh wrote: post #15

bluedino wrote: post #3

The CPU increases are welcome, but I was hoping for the rumored 6K displays. No space grey, no T2 chip, no Touchbar. Somehow they still sell the 1080 21" model for $1099.

No touch bar is a win IMHO. I'm not against it per se, but a soft `esc` was a mistake.

vim lifer here, I'm dreading the day my 2015 rMBP dies.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by bluedino » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:10 PM UTC

tambourine_man wrote: post #24

Still selling brand new machines with 5400 rpm HDs. In 2019. It undermines the brand. Any Mac a customer buys should have good enough performance. 5400 spinning disk hasn’t been fast enough for a decade.

With current SSD prices being at rock bottom, can a 128GB SSD cost more than a 5400RPM 2.5" drive?

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by jxi » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:11 PM UTC

fiblye wrote: post #13

Bought my iMac 7 years ago with 8GB as the default memory option and a 1TB fusion drive. And here we are, nearly a decade later. Still 8 GB in the newest models. Still 1 TB fusion drives. GPUs haven't even seemed to take a jump over last year's models.

RAM is easy to upgrade on the iMacs. I just bought the 8gb model then bought sticks off Amazon to get to 24gb.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by vbezhenar » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:11 PM UTC

kmlx wrote: post #17

dmitriid wrote: post #4

The price for upgrading remains as ridiculous as ever (especially if you're not in the US). RAM: 8 GB -> 16 GB is 2200 SEK (239 USD) 8 GB -> 32 GB is 6600 SEK (717 USD) You can get 32GB as low as 1689 SEK (183 USD) on Newegg.

isn't the RAM soldered in on iMacs?

In 2017 generation it was not soldered. It's soldered in 21" from 2014 and 2015 years. I think that even CPU is not soldered in latest generation.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by dmitriid » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:11 PM UTC

kmlx wrote: post #17

dmitriid wrote: post #4

The price for upgrading remains as ridiculous as ever (especially if you're not in the US). RAM: 8 GB -> 16 GB is 2200 SEK (239 USD) 8 GB -> 32 GB is 6600 SEK (717 USD) You can get 32GB as low as 1689 SEK (183 USD) on Newegg.

isn't the RAM soldered in on iMacs?

iMacs still have a latch to swap out RAM [1]. That, too, may soon be gone. Because on the iMac "Pro"s you have to disassemble the whole unit to get to RAM [2].

[1] https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+27-Inch+Retina+5K+Di...

[2] https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+Pro+Teardown/101807 and https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac-pro/imac-pro-faq/ima...

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by pixl97 » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:12 PM UTC

tambourine_man wrote: post #24

Still selling brand new machines with 5400 rpm HDs. In 2019. It undermines the brand. Any Mac a customer buys should have good enough performance. 5400 spinning disk hasn’t been fast enough for a decade.

"But we cant compromise profits of our high end line"