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Longevity and anti-aging research: ‘Prime time for an impact on the globe’

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Re: Longevity and anti-aging research: ‘Prime time for an impact on the globe’

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Post by garmaine »

_iyig wrote: post #17
buboard wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Solving" life is the key if we want to go to the stars.

Wouldn’t it be easier to send an artificial womb and the necessary freeze-dried ingredients on a thousand-year journey to the stars, instead of grown humans who you’d need to keep fed, watered, and happy? The real trick then becomes raising babies entirely through automation. Of course, any automatic system up to the task may be smart enough to just colonize the planet itself.

There will be no thousand year journies. You’d be overtaken by the generation after which left in faster ships and arrived in half the time. Make the trip in a few decades or don’t bother making it at all.

Re: Longevity and anti-aging research: ‘Prime time for an impact on the globe’

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Post by 0815test »

raugustinus wrote: post #10

What makes people think we want to have them around any longer? To extend life is to decrease it's value. Simple economics tells us it's inflation. edit: I think Neil deGrasse Tyson says it a lot better than me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3G9LOJZTmM

The main point of anti-aging is not to keep people around longer, but to keep them healthy since they're going to be around for quite a while anyway. Lifespan increase is a possibility, but might also turn out to be quite hard; health-span increase is the real low-hanging fruit of anti-aging research.

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Post by raugustinus »

winchling wrote: post #19
raugustinus wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hah good one. On the other hand, medical possibilities will be increasing way beyond what we'll be able to afford.

Yet it may turn out that performing regular maintenance on the human body is the cheapest way to keep it healthy.

I am 100% for a (more) healthy life. I have no interest in 'extending my lifespan' except for the 'few' extra years that the healthy life might bring.

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Post by dtujmer »

"The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death."

Well, maybe not the last one, but still an important one. Nick Bostrom has a great story describing the underlying philosophy in the fight against aging:

https://nickbostrom.com/fable/dragon.html

And here it is in video form as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZYNADOHhVY

Re: Longevity and anti-aging research: ‘Prime time for an impact on the globe’

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Post by agumonkey »

kristofferR wrote: post #7

This recent interview with Aubrey de Grey (main popularizer of anti-aging science) is really worth listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMFST20xHwk (1.5x speed is fine) He seems to think that anti-aging science has speeded up drastically recently, both in terms of the science itself, the funding and the popularity. I really love what the SENS Foundation is doing in terms of spinning research avenues into sta…

Wow I never thought I'd see someone suggesting listening to Aubrey at 1.5x speed. I have trouble following at normal x.

The longevity field might be seeing an EV tipping point moment. Nobody cared until everyone spins.

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Post by jvln »

raugustinus wrote: post #10

What makes people think we want to have them around any longer? To extend life is to decrease it's value. Simple economics tells us it's inflation. edit: I think Neil deGrasse Tyson says it a lot better than me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3G9LOJZTmM

There is a theory that some math problems are not solved because people who are solving them have to few time to think on them.

Other theory states that 100 years war between France and England lasted so long because there were left 0 leaders older than 30+ years old and these guys were not good at negotiation.

Re: Longevity and anti-aging research: ‘Prime time for an impact on the globe’

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Post by raugustinus »

0815test wrote: post #22
raugustinus wrote: post #10

What makes people think we want to have them around any longer? To extend life is to decrease it's value. Simple economics tells us it's inflation. edit: I think Neil deGrasse Tyson says it a lot better than me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3G9LOJZTmM

The main point of anti-aging is not to keep people around longer, but to keep them healthy since they're going to be around for quite a while anyway. Lifespan increase is a possibility, but might also turn out to be quite hard; health-span increase is the real low-hanging fruit of anti-aging research.

Reading the article beyond the second paragraph actually affirms kinda what you're saying. I guess I shot straight into a kneejerk reaction on the subtitle 'extending the human lifespan' :)

Re: Longevity and anti-aging research: ‘Prime time for an impact on the globe’

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Post by antt »

dtujmer wrote: post #24

"The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." Well, maybe not the last one, but still an important one. Nick Bostrom has a great story describing the underlying philosophy in the fight against aging: https://nickbostrom.com/fable/dragon.html And here it is in video form as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZYNADOHhVY

Imagine a world in which Stalin was still in power. That is what amortality looks like.

I can't help but think that this would also completely retard scientific progress. Imagine tenure that lasts a milenium or more. We would still be discussing scholastism.

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