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Why I believe Rails is still relevant in 2019

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Re: Why I believe Rails is still relevant in 2019

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Post by carmate383 »

everdev wrote: post #6
carmate383 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And here come the knee-jerk down votes.

I think the down votes are for spouting nonsense instead of having a rational discussion about the article.

How does one rationally discuss an irrational conjecture?

Re: Why I believe Rails is still relevant in 2019

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Post by nitrogen »

carmate383 wrote: post #11
everdev wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the down votes are for spouting nonsense instead of having a rational discussion about the article.

How does one rationally discuss an irrational conjecture?

Start with the principle of charity.

Re: Why I believe Rails is still relevant in 2019

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Post by carmate383 »

rapsey wrote: post #10
everdev wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the down votes are for spouting nonsense instead of having a rational discussion about the article.

And for toxic attitude that ruined /r/programming

You think being open to true _facts_ implies a toxic attitude? You must really live in a small, limited world.

Here's a graph displaying some factual and relevant information:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=R...

Re: Why I believe Rails is still relevant in 2019

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Post by jmchuster »

Rails is a great monolith framework, but a monolith will eventually reach its limits, due to size/complexity of the team or the task at hand. I think providing a better story around how to prepare for or handle that transition would definitely serve Rails a lot better in the long run. But, as long as the main target audience of Rails is Basecamp (a saas tool with 12 developers), I don't see it in the future.

Re: Why I believe Rails is still relevant in 2019

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Post by nitrogen »

Popularity of a framework or paradigm seems largely driven by marketing and memes. With "Rails doesn't scale" as the almost-rhyme that sticks in people's minds, an entire tech cycle gets wasted on things that take significantly more developer effort.

I've seen a Rails app handle Cyber Monday traffic for an ecommerce company just fine, and I've seen JVM-based apps crumple under a fraction of the load.

Rails scales (see, that actually rhymes, so it must be true), Ruby is a really nice language to work in, and those things will remain true regardless of whatever frameworks exist or whatever earworm sayings stick in the minds of the next generation of developers.

Re: Why I believe Rails is still relevant in 2019

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Post by jmchuster »

revskill wrote: post #13

Rails needs more opinionated decision on frontend story. Just pick ReactJS instead ? Not a bad idea. Or VueJS ? Neither a bad choice. It's the main reason i don't choose Rails over a universal Node.js stack for the HTML rendering part.

Their opinion is coffeescript + turbolinks, which turn out to be the first two defaults developers change.

Re: Why I believe Rails is still relevant in 2019

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Post by anm89 »

I've never felt as dialed in and as productive in any other tool or framework as I have in Rails. It takes all the unimportant BS, places it off to the side, allows me to focus on what I want to build, and gives me the ability to dig in deeper on the details when I want/need to.

The amount of projects I have seen go bad because someone did a bad job of solving some problem that would have been a non issue in Rails is staggering.

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