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Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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Re: Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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Cheaper than the $150 Google TPU Dev Board, and looks like it can do training as well as inference. Also, doesn't require you to send your model to their company. Nice!

there is no reason to train on that thing (except for zero shot classification demos). any cheap/lower end Nvidia gpu would do a much better job, and you would then transfer the model to the embedded thing.

Re: Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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Anyone know about the binary blob / firmware situation on this one? Will it run mainline Linux?

It's Nvidia, so you have to decide whether you want to give ANY money at all to a company that ships binary blobs or not (whether or not this individual product uses them). I'm sure there are product teams at Nvidia that ship "open" products but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to support the good parts of a corporation while neglecting the parts that ship closed binary blobs.

Which hardware companies ship zero binary blobs?

Re: Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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post #30

Cheaper than the $150 Google TPU Dev Board, and looks like it can do training as well as inference. Also, doesn't require you to send your model to their company. Nice!

Cheaper than the $150 Google TPU Dev Board, and looks like it can do training as well as inference.

Training is a slight win (although it's going to be too slow for anything useful really).

But it looks like the TPU will outperform this somewhat for inference. The 256 core Jetson (this has 128 cores) could run MobileNet-v2 at between 12 and 20 ms per image (depending on batch size)[1], while the USB TPU adapter takes 2.3ms per image [2]

Also, doesn't require you to send your model to their company.

Nor does the TPU dev board.

[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1810.00736.pdf (see table 1)

[2] https://coral.withgoogle.com/tutorials/edgetpu-faq/

Re: Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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Just bought one. Been a while since I played with embedded systems (or ML for that matter) :) Anyone have any cool ideas for how to make this little toy useful?

- Smart camera for a doorbell? Train it to detect a person or a package?

- Smart camera to detect your posture, and message you when you slouch for more than 3 minutes?

- buy tons and tons of sensors and just hook them all up to see if you can detect anything at all? VOC sensors, heat, light, noise, see if any of these things can diagnose comfort, sleep, health issues in your life?

Re: Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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post #30

Cheaper than the $150 Google TPU Dev Board, and looks like it can do training as well as inference. Also, doesn't require you to send your model to their company. Nice!

Yeah, but Google Edge TPU can do faster than realtime (about 70fps) 90-class object detection with SSD300. Just plug in a webcam. I wonder how this compares both in terms of the raw throughput and FPS per watt. If it compares favorably in even one of these without being too terrible in the other, this could be pretty cool.

Re: Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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post #44
post #30

Cheaper than the $150 Google TPU Dev Board, and looks like it can do training as well as inference. Also, doesn't require you to send your model to their company. Nice!

Cheaper than the $150 Google TPU Dev Board, and looks like it can do training as well as inference. Training is a slight win (although it's going to be too slow for anything useful really). But it looks like the TPU will outperform this somewhat for inference. The 256 core Jetson (this has 128 cores) could run MobileNet-v2 at between 12 and 20 ms per image (depending on batch size)[1], while the USB TPU adapter takes…

Seems to lose in Mobilenet and win in other benches according to Nvidia's benchmarks.

I'll wait for independent testing before I drop $100.

https://devblogs.nvidia.com/jetson-nano-ai-computing/

Re: Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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> 472 gigaflops

Whenever I hear a number of gigaflops or terraflops, I like to look up the history of super computers [0]. This $99 computer is faster (on paper) than the world's fastest supercomputer in 1996, or a bit over 20 years ago. That's pretty cool.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_supercomputing#Mass...

Re: Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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Anyone know about the binary blob / firmware situation on this one? Will it run mainline Linux?

Mainline Linux will run but all the fancy stuff won't work. They ship 4.9 kernel which is two years old (though it's LTS). After all it's just a standard ARM board with a fancy GPU and peripherals.

Re: Nvidia's $99 Jetson Nano Is an AI Computer for DIY Enthusiasts

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I wish these tiny SBCs came with SATA or m.2 so I could hook up an SSD. I know microSD is catching up, but it's not there yet.

This has an M.2 Key E connector which has PCIe ×2, USB 2.0, I2C, SDIO, UART and PCM. Hypothetically an M.2 PCIe drive could work with a Key M to Key E adapter, but I couldn't find one in a cursory search.

Unfortunately it looks like you lose wireless connectivity then.
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