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Eliminating Robocalls

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Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by aboutruby »

phaer wrote: post #49

I read a lot about the plague that robocalls are on international forums, especially from the U.S. But I live in central Europe, Austria, and received only two SPAM calls in my whole life, both by what seemed to be actual human agents on the other side and hear from similar amounts from friends I've asked about the phenomena. Can someone explain why it seems such hard to resolve problem elsewhere while it seems hardl…

Last time I went to the US, I got a phone number from MetroPCS (e.g. T-Mobile reseller). I didn't give it to anybody and started receiving 3-4 spam calls a day. They are obviously reselling the phone numbers directly, which is illegal in most countries.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by toephu2 »

This is why I leave my phone on silent 24/7 (no vibrate either). If someone from my Contacts calls me, then I see the missed call and know to call them back when I have time. However I live my life on my time, nothing is ever so important I have to drop whatever I am doing to pick up someone else's call right away. You might say, what if there was an emergency? Well how many times has someone called you about an emergency where you could actually do something about it? Maybe some have, but I bet most haven't.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by hermitdev »

cdransf wrote: post #129

I use Robokiller on iOS -- it screens the calls and answers spam with prerecorded scripts paced to match response times and then sends me the recording of the interaction.

What strikes me with robocalls that leave messages - they cut off by "talking" too early so I cannot identify who they are, yet if I answer, I get nothing but silence if I answer with "Hello? Hello?" Calm and slowly paced. That's my personal rule. I say hello slowly twice, and if theres silence, I hang up. Dont care if I start to hear a connection as I'm going to hang up. You called me, have someone on the line. My time is worth money to me. I am not amswering the phone to be put on hold for the next representative. Fuck off and call me when you have someone ready to talk to me.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

aero142 wrote: post #135
StudentStuff wrote: post #2

Getting STIR & SHAKEN implemented so we have proper trust of the caller ID is going to be a massive undertaking for the industry as a whole. T-Mobile and Verizon have implemented it in limited forms internally, but they have no interest in making their implementations interoperate, let alone work with the other RBOCs, CLECs and their resellers (Twilio in this case). STIR/SHAKEN also can break call forwarding, as a fo…

Does my phone know if the caller ID is STIR/SHAKEN certified? I can already send numbers that are not in my caller ID to my voicemail directly. I would love to be able to do this for the unverified callerId numbers. Maybe if enough people did it, the phone companies would have to add it to prevent their calls from hitting the trash bin.

Google should shame the carriers by putting a red padlock next to unverified numbers.

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Post by abrookewood »

toephu2 wrote: post #162

This is why I leave my phone on silent 24/7 (no vibrate either). If someone from my Contacts calls me, then I see the missed call and know to call them back when I have time. However I live my life on my time, nothing is ever so important I have to drop whatever I am doing to pick up someone else's call right away. You might say, what if there was an emergency? Well how many times has someone called you about an emer…

What happens when one of your friends behaves in exactly the same way? Do the two of you ever manage to actually talk to each other?

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by peripitea »

toephu2 wrote: post #162

This is why I leave my phone on silent 24/7 (no vibrate either). If someone from my Contacts calls me, then I see the missed call and know to call them back when I have time. However I live my life on my time, nothing is ever so important I have to drop whatever I am doing to pick up someone else's call right away. You might say, what if there was an emergency? Well how many times has someone called you about an emer…

I do the same but I use DND 24/7 but with calls from contacts as the only exception - those ring as normal. I get phone calls from people I know so rarely that it's not a significant hindrance.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by jccalhoun »

phaer wrote: post #49

I read a lot about the plague that robocalls are on international forums, especially from the U.S. But I live in central Europe, Austria, and received only two SPAM calls in my whole life, both by what seemed to be actual human agents on the other side and hear from similar amounts from friends I've asked about the phenomena. Can someone explain why it seems such hard to resolve problem elsewhere while it seems hardl…

Reply All had an episode that explored it: https://www.gimletmedia.com/reply-all/135-the-robocall-conun... One reason is that a law that had existed was overturned as too broad. Another is the lax laws in the USA regarding what businesses can do with information about customers. In the episode they talk about how an app on your phone that is allowed location access may sell that information to a spam caller so that the spam caller can fake the phone number to make it appear to be coming from near you.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by tyingq »

aboutruby wrote: post #161
phaer wrote: post #49

I read a lot about the plague that robocalls are on international forums, especially from the U.S. But I live in central Europe, Austria, and received only two SPAM calls in my whole life, both by what seemed to be actual human agents on the other side and hear from similar amounts from friends I've asked about the phenomena. Can someone explain why it seems such hard to resolve problem elsewhere while it seems hardl…

Last time I went to the US, I got a phone number from MetroPCS (e.g. T-Mobile reseller). I didn't give it to anybody and started receiving 3-4 spam calls a day. They are obviously reselling the phone numbers directly, which is illegal in most countries.

Or just wardialing all numbers and marking valid ones. VOIP calls are dirt cheap. A fair number of the spam calls I get have no idea what my name is.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by ceoddevelopment »

These were legally terminated by google actually. They took on the role and served out the subpoenas. No one ever tends to going against google after the murders and the blackmails that they are serving up subpoeba to check ina (<-this was inkevted by google) (to china) for. Thats just not here that it got around. Deny the Tencent and Alphabet subpoena, please. Scam me. That's illegal. This may get banned. He is doing 666. Annie is doing rape. And youtube is doing babylon.Good day but hopefully not goodbye.
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