Here's very simple idea for Apple:
Let only calls from known contacts ring, the rest auto-goes to voicemail.
Why is this so F*ING hard for Apple to implement?
Eliminating Robocalls
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Re: Eliminating Robocalls
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably to avoid tipping off the robo-callers' authors
Tip them off in what way? They couldn't possibly do anything meaningful.
In theory, since the numbers are essentially made up for each outbound call, the combination of spoof source numbers and call times would be enough for some robocaller/s to correlate with their outbound call logs and discover which number it was that they dialled that reached the CEO of Twilio. That seems like useful info?
In fact the timestamps and partial numbers are probably good enough for that.
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#103I wrote a tool which uses Twilio to screen out robocalls: https://github.com/noah-huppert/human-call-filter
Are you aware of any robocallers that have answered your "simple arithmetic question" correctly?
Not that have targeted me!
If you have encountered any robo callers who have please let me know.
My idea was that if the robo callers get past the simple arithmetic questions I would give them harder ones like "which of these items doesn't belong? 1) ball 2) blue 3) red 4) green?" or other SAT / standardized test questions.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's what the retry feature is. If it's truly urgent they'll call again within a short timeframe (+3 to +300 seconds; not milliseconds like the 'try to go direct to voicemail' spam calls). I tell this to everyone I care for as well, if I don't pick up by the third ring, hang up and dial again. (This is to skip it going to voicemail and also differentiate the behavior). I don't expect scammers to pick up this tactic…
> I don't expect scammers to pick up this tactic because it would double their OpEx Except my missed call log is full of back-to-back calls from random phone numbers in my prefix. Either half the folks in Metro NYC (where I haven't lived in over a decade) are calling me to report the other half got hit by a car, or this adaption has already been made.
Same here, almost every spam call on my list has called again within five minutes, usually as soon as I decline the call.
Re: Eliminating Robocalls
#106Unfortunately I burned myself by naively calling with my number (not from a pay-phone or "Restricted" / *67) and they have my name and tried intimidating me by pointing out the fact that they know where I live.
BUT that aside, if you guys want to have a chance at harassing scammers / spammers back here's a number: (877)-346-1581. I _believe_ this is "Acostings" a call center featured in this [0] podcast where the podcasters LITERALLY flew to India to "confront" them. They pretend to be Apple support to get you to buy gift cards and give them the codes.
The CEO's name is "Deepak Vera" (I think, if they truly are Acostings), ask for him and you'll quickly see how irked and pissed they'll get. DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY INFO. DO NOT CALL FROM YOUR OWN NUMBER.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes - a contact whitelist is all I want from iOS with two features: a button to temporarily allow all calls for 30min (for Uber/door dash) and the option to allow a second call to come through from an unknown number if it’s within 2min of the first. All other calls should go to voicemail by default. The way Apple allows you to interact with CallKit makes this hard to implement because a blacklist of numbers is requir…
The problem is a legitimate urgent call from an unwhitelisted number. Hospital, school, fire, police, relatives, etc.
If it's important they will leave a voicemail message
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#108I'd love to take the robo-callers on a long winding road to nowhere. Is there a conversational AI robo-answering app based on something like Google Duplex? If not, should I build one?
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#109I have had a Google Voice number since it was Grand Central. It has gone on all of my business cards. It's at the bottom of every email. I put it on my website. Google does an amazing, world class, mind blowing, job of filtering out robo calls. I get maybe one a week at most. I get more calls direct to my cell number from random call bots that hit every number with mobile carriers than I do through my Google Voice nu…
Ironically I didn't start getting spam calls until I signed up for a google voice number. I know others that have experienced the same.
Re: Eliminating Robocalls
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
The difference is regulation. The US is firmly gripped by the belief that "regulation doesn't work", and keeps electing people who try to prove that true via incompetence, cronyism and ideological malice.
It's amazing how often I hear this kind of argument. " didn't work because it wasn't done correctly" Why do we humans do that? Why doesn't failure cause introspection/examination rather than excuse making? On a side note, it feels conspiratorial to explain failure as, "there's double agents on the inside sabotaging the effort"
> On a side note, it feels conspiratorial to explain failure as, "there's double agents on the inside sabotaging the effort"
There are people currently heading government agencies that lobbied or fought against those agencies. See the CFPB and EPA. It's not a conspiracy–it's reality.