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Atlassian Acquires AgileCraft for $166M

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Re: Atlassian Acquires AgileCraft for $166M

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Post by sethhochberg »

DavidPiper wrote: post #9

I don't read a lot of TechCrunch, but did anybody else find this article quite poorly (perhaps hastily) written? (My apologies to the author for the flippancy of that question) An incorrect word in the opening sentence, a few places where tenses are mixed or incorrect, and generally long-winded sentences... Is this usual for TechCrunch? Regardless, interesting news to wake up to - I'll be interested to watch the dire…

A lot of web journalism is like this now... whoever published first gets all the link traffic, so its often a (literal) race to the bottom.

Re: Atlassian Acquires AgileCraft for $166M

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Post by jedberg »

nisa wrote: post #8
keithnz wrote: post #7

I've been really unimpressed with atlassian over the last few years. We started with bitbucket before it was acquired, it was super robust, then once atlassian got it slowly small bug after small bug kept making it into production creating mini headaches and they never seem like its super important to them. We also have Confluence, which is okish, but again, small bug after small bug keeps creeping in, like at the mo…

They just don't seem to care. You research something - after hours you'll end up at their bugtracker, where you can read the desperation of others (often some issues are not fixed in 10+ years). I don't understand their priorities. There is to date still no way to restrict visibility of work-logs on issues - a usecase basically every smaller shop has because the client is often participating directly in the JIRA. Ser…

> Confluence lacking some robust text-only markup (like markdown or asciidoc or whatever)

The really irony here is that it used to have that! That was the only way I edited Confluence docs back in 2012 (and before) until they took the feature away. For a while you could dig into it, but pretty much any change you made not using the WYSIWYG editor broke the whole page.

Re: Atlassian Acquires AgileCraft for $166M

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Post by Waterluvian »

yaseenk wrote: post #6
yuchi wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the uninitiated in Enterprise-talk, FTE stands for Full Time Employee. flies away

FYI it’s Full Time _Equivalent_. E.g a new feature may require 1 FTE for 1 week. That doesn’t necessarily mean 1 person 1 week. It may be 2 people 2.5 days each, etc.

Or 9 women to birth a baby in a month.

I don't like being reduced to a quantifiable amount. You end up with crappy managers who have secret multipliers for every employee to try to make their crappy estimates work.

Nothing makes your colleagues dislike you more than it accidentally slipping that your manager sees you as worth 2.5 of them.

Re: Atlassian Acquires AgileCraft for $166M

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Post by drum »

After using Jira for the last 2 years, Atlassian has struck me as the 800 pound gorilla that's resting on its laurels.

On my dashboard, I'm consistently annoyed by being shown the option of creating a new user account and having to decipher the UI to choose wether my ticket is a bug or feature during mission critical moments. Just give me one big button that says 'Create Ticket', we'll figure out the rest later. Secondly, why aren't tickets shown on the dashboard by default? When I log in, I'd expect to see what's going on, not have them tucked away in the nav menu.

Recently during a mission critical ticket, email responses to Jira threads were not creating new messages in Jira, creating massive delays in communication with the team until we figured out messages weren't posting. Diagnosing the issue later, it seemed to be due to file attachments in the email responses.

Re: Atlassian Acquires AgileCraft for $166M

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Post by keithnz »

jedberg wrote: post #12
nisa wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just don't seem to care. You research something - after hours you'll end up at their bugtracker, where you can read the desperation of others (often some issues are not fixed in 10+ years). I don't understand their priorities. There is to date still no way to restrict visibility of work-logs on issues - a usecase basically every smaller shop has because the client is often participating directly in the JIRA. Ser…

> Confluence lacking some robust text-only markup (like markdown or asciidoc or whatever) The really irony here is that it used to have that! That was the only way I edited Confluence docs back in 2012 (and before) until they took the feature away. For a while you could dig into it, but pretty much any change you made not using the WYSIWYG editor broke the whole page.

I think the real irony for me is a company that promotes software development tools and agile software development seems to not do it. Things that were working break in production, so clearly no intergration/regression testing (if this happened as an oops! once in a while I wouldn't mind so much ), and they are not working at a sustainble pace. Very hard for them to keep their product rock solid, then intoduce new things, and keep it all rocksolid, and they seem to not mind.... my guess is some kind of classic management probem where given 2 of the following 3 choices :- quality, time, features.... manamgent choose features and time but pay lip service that they should maintain quality, it's not a first class concept at a management level, just a detail that the devs somehow have to deal with because they really want features by a certain time.

Re: Atlassian Acquires AgileCraft for $166M

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Post by chrisweekly »

whalesalad wrote: post #2

> a service that aims to give enterprises plan their strategic projects and workstreams ??? Interesting software. My spidey sense tells me that your team will need at least 1 FTE just to massage whatever kind of workflow is required to get stuff in Jira to play nice with this. These tools that promise insight into what is actually happening within prod/eng teams are always really great on paper but in actuality I hav…

Yikes! Not every place is like that, thankfully.

Re: Atlassian Acquires AgileCraft for $166M

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Post by Benjammer »

arthurcolle wrote: post #15

> Atlassian today announced that it has acquired AgileCraft, a service that aims to give enterprises plan their strategic projects and workstreams. Whatever happened to editing in Journalism?

delta in ad impressions for being first to publish >>> delta in ad impressions for having poor copy-editing

Re: Atlassian Acquires AgileCraft for $166M

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Post by commonsense1234 »

keithnz wrote: post #7

I've been really unimpressed with atlassian over the last few years. We started with bitbucket before it was acquired, it was super robust, then once atlassian got it slowly small bug after small bug kept making it into production creating mini headaches and they never seem like its super important to them. We also have Confluence, which is okish, but again, small bug after small bug keeps creeping in, like at the mo…

try using the keyboard to copy paste on confluence. atrocious piece of software. its a matter of time someone else replaces them.

Re: Atlassian Acquires AgileCraft for $166M

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Post by politician »

drum wrote: post #14

After using Jira for the last 2 years, Atlassian has struck me as the 800 pound gorilla that's resting on its laurels. On my dashboard, I'm consistently annoyed by being shown the option of creating a new user account and having to decipher the UI to choose wether my ticket is a bug or feature during mission critical moments. Just give me one big button that says 'Create Ticket', we'll figure out the rest later. Seco…

What's Voltron? Their SEO must be poor because Googling "Atlassian vs Voltron" brings up TFS as the top hit and a page full of Atlassian spam.
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