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Ask HN: What is the best “dumb” phone?

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Re: Ask HN: What is the best “dumb” phone?

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I used a Motorola FONE for a few years. E-ink display, the most basic basics (single-case text messages, twelve characters at a time). Pretty good battery life, nice form factor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Fone

I did too! I loved the e-ink, but battery life was surprisingly bad considering the premise. I still loved the simplicity and durability.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best “dumb” phone?

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You will be in a tough spot if you're in the USA. All the nice Nokias and decent low-tech phones are rapidly becoming useless as carriers phase out 2g (and even 3g) coverage to free up bands for LTE and now 5g. If your "dumbphone" doesn't support VoLTE you'll be frustrated with dropped calls and spotty service everywhere. I know this from experience. I settled on T-Mobile's only "dumbphone" - the Alcatel GoFlip [1].…

It's not just degrading coverage, Verizon no longer allows 3G device activations and is shutting down the 3G network completely on 12/31/2019 [1]. ATT is doing the same in a few years.

Interestingly, they are also no longer activating 4G devices unless they support HD Voice, so the iPhone 5s and 5c are out even though they support LTE.

[1] https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-21881...

Re: Ask HN: What is the best “dumb” phone?

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post #18

You will be in a tough spot if you're in the USA. All the nice Nokias and decent low-tech phones are rapidly becoming useless as carriers phase out 2g (and even 3g) coverage to free up bands for LTE and now 5g. If your "dumbphone" doesn't support VoLTE you'll be frustrated with dropped calls and spotty service everywhere. I know this from experience. I settled on T-Mobile's only "dumbphone" - the Alcatel GoFlip [1].…

"Also other humans now look like phone-zombies everywhere I look." Just this morning I saw someone take a brief pause while crossing the street to look at her phone unaware that a car was coming. She stopped in the middle! of the street. The car screeched to a halt and missed hitting her by nothing.

Today is spent a full 30 seconds driving at a crawling pace behind a guy so immersed in his phone that he didn’t notice he was walking in the middle of the street.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best “dumb” phone?

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You will be in a tough spot if you're in the USA. All the nice Nokias and decent low-tech phones are rapidly becoming useless as carriers phase out 2g (and even 3g) coverage to free up bands for LTE and now 5g. If your "dumbphone" doesn't support VoLTE you'll be frustrated with dropped calls and spotty service everywhere. I know this from experience. I settled on T-Mobile's only "dumbphone" - the Alcatel GoFlip [1].…

> I tried turning my smartphone into a "dumbphone" and using it less, but I honestly lacked the self-control to put the stupid thing down.

Got a wife/husband/best friend that you trust? Use iOS or Android's built in systems for restricting what you can do on your phone, from what websites you can visit to being able to install apps, and lock them in place with a pin... that your trusted partner sets. Now you have no choice.

Worked for me.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best “dumb” phone?

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post #28

You might consider a WiPhone a few months from now once we're shipping them: (project preview link) https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2103809433/338898127?re... It's intended to be hackable. The base phone is pure WiFi, but there will probably be an LTE add-on.

I'd be hugely interested in this phone if only it had some form of cell connectivity; even 2G would suffice for my purposes. While we wait for cheaper 4G modems, why not a pluggable SIM800 (cost: a few bucks) module for the rest of us?

Re: Ask HN: What is the best “dumb” phone?

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post #15

Nothing compares to the Punkt MP01 and MP02 IMO. I've had the MP01 for years and it's fantastic, the only issue has been with service and I imagine that would be resolved with the MP02 and 4g. https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/ There's also the Lightphone and forthcoming Lightphone II. That being said, these won't really address privacy concerns per se. They don't support signal or other encrypted…

I also have a Punkt MP01 - It feels like a breath of fresh air to use this and to have a phone for simply what a phone does, calls and text messages.

I've since purchased a portable music player, a separate camera and an old fashioned A-Z map for my local area. If you can't see why I might want to do this rather than have a small smartphone that does it all then you haven't realised how much of a problem these devices can be for some people like myself who find themselves unable to control their own willpower.

What I find now is that I have a device specifically for the intention that I want to use it for. I want to read? I pick up a book, I'm not distracted and my attention span has increased. I want to listen to music? I go to HDTracks and buy a super high quality version of the album and listen intently. Want to take pictures? Really actually take pictures that you'll use and value rather than a phone full of photos that will likely never get viewed again.

Punkt's philosophy is similar and I really really respect them as a company taking this line because it's very niche but I feel it's very necessary in today's world. Love that company <3

Re: Ask HN: What is the best “dumb” phone?

#89

Consider taking this a step further and trying no phone at all. But instead of doing something extreme like dumping your smartphone, just turn your current phone off unless you're OK with being reached and at home or at work. Anything in between, the phone stays off. This makes your smartphone a de facto land line for all practical intents, and you get to keep the potential to make exceptions and use it for e.g. GPS…

Another possibility to consider is carrying a pager. That way you'll at least know when you've got a call or a voice mail, and then you can turn your phone on temporarily to call back or check your voice mail, instead of having to periodically turn on your phone to check for missed calls.

Actually, the whole point here is to not be reachable unless you're OK with it. If you're working as e.g. an emergency doctor or a firefighter, or you're responsible for keeping Gmail/Google Drive up, it's a different story of course. But most of us aren't dealing with urgent -- as in life or death, or impacting gazillions of users -- situations that can't wait an hour or two.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best “dumb” phone?

#90
post #4

Oh great question! I have tried asking almost the same thing here[1] with no luck. 8 upvotes, 0 replies. Very curious to see if this thread will get any traction. Personally, I was eyeing Nokia 3310 (relaunched version)[2]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15261955 [2] https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/nokia-3310

I have the Nokia 3310 3G (relaunched version). It has many noticeable bugs/issues ranging from annoying to near deal-breakers, e.g.:

* Terrible MMS/group chat support (and bugs, e.g. messages showing up in previews but not in the actual channel)

* Inconsistent notifications

* Un-removable built in apps (that auto-install on first open)

I still use it but based on this thread I'm going to be following the Punkt MP02 (although $350 seems ridiculous). Or maybe at some point I'll get around to building that custom dumb phone I've always wanted...

I previously used the samsung A727 which I actually thought was great but is hard to find any more.

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