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Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by fxfan »

jackfrodo wrote: post #3

I'm 24 years old, work in software. Neither I nor any of my friends uses a tablet for work or pleasure. I guess I know a couple of people who have Surface Pro's, but that's about it. I'm wondering if the appeal of these begins when you get older? Seems like a lot of the market for these is people who are 50+, but I'd like to know if any people under 25 are interested in them.

I will be downvoted to hell but I'll say this- tablets for fun were a fad that most people don't repeat twice (except the tech crazy/HN type crowd). Some people still use tablets for work (something the iLine of devices is horribly deficient at) and surface works well- I think you can install linux too.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

#142

Post by komali2 »

segphault wrote: post #115
komali2 wrote: post #32

More and more I get the sense that there is a gap in the market for a device that ticks these boxes: Ultraportable Stylus enabled Fully capable desktop operating system Ports to allow hook-up to external monitor I wanted something like this as a frequently traveling and programming, conference hand written note taking engineer. Then I notice some of the designers in my office experimenting with iPads, Pencils, and Ma…

> I just hate programming in windows and haven't touched one of these that are powerful enough to run Ubuntu in a VM in a reasonable fashion. I have a hard time understanding where this sentiment comes from. WSL is categorically better than using Homebrew on macOS. It is basically an Ubuntu userspace with apt, running directly on the Windows kernel. Using Ubuntu in a VM seems pretty superfluous when all the useful pa…

/shrug the workspaces/desktops are not how I like it

Also i always had trouble configuring my windows tools to talk to my Linux tools. Simple stuff like vscode or emacs magit talking to git in wsl

If I could run gnome or cinnamon on windows I'd agree

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

#143

Post by baobrain »

tolmasky wrote: post #30

It is so weird that the iPad Air and iPad mini only support the old Apple Pencil. The iPad mini was my favorite incarnation of the iPad line when it came out, and I was considering getting one again, but I have no interest in needing two different kinds of iPad pencil. Apple keeps creating and extending these arbitrary transition periods. The old Apple Pencil should be in the past. Instead we have an entire other gen…

Keeping the lightning port is what really jumped out at me. Now some iPads are going to have USB C and others are going to have lightning, all under the same umbrella product of the iPad.

What is even worse (!) is that the iPhones and iPads still ship with a USB A to lightning cable, meaning even users inside the Apple ecosystem need a USB C/thunderbolt dongle with usb A ports to connect their iPhones/iPads to their computers. I have no idea how this decision was approved without thinking about this.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

#144

Post by halbritt »

hiteho wrote: post #16
jackfrodo wrote: post #3

I'm 24 years old, work in software. Neither I nor any of my friends uses a tablet for work or pleasure. I guess I know a couple of people who have Surface Pro's, but that's about it. I'm wondering if the appeal of these begins when you get older? Seems like a lot of the market for these is people who are 50+, but I'd like to know if any people under 25 are interested in them.

I know a few private charter pilots who are massively excited this morning. The iPad Mini is the only iOS device that is big enough to use at arms length, small enough to fit in a cramped cockpit, and approved by the FAA. They use a handful of apps during flight for planning, weather, approach data and whatnot. There has been a lot of fear among the local pilot community that the Mini would be discontinued. While the…

Oh, hey, that reminds me. I also use mine with an external GPS (Dual XGPS) for charts while sailing and for topo maps with Gaia GPS when I need that kind of thing.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

#145

Post by jimbokun »

tolmasky wrote: post #30

It is so weird that the iPad Air and iPad mini only support the old Apple Pencil. The iPad mini was my favorite incarnation of the iPad line when it came out, and I was considering getting one again, but I have no interest in needing two different kinds of iPad pencil. Apple keeps creating and extending these arbitrary transition periods. The old Apple Pencil should be in the past. Instead we have an entire other gen…

Starting to feel like Ballmer era Microsoft.

Unforced errors like this seem to be occurring more and more often. Seemingly minor pragmatic issues that will prevent many users from upgrading or leaving the ecosystem altogether, that could easily be avoided.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

#146

Post by halbritt »

fxfan wrote: post #141
jackfrodo wrote: post #3

I'm 24 years old, work in software. Neither I nor any of my friends uses a tablet for work or pleasure. I guess I know a couple of people who have Surface Pro's, but that's about it. I'm wondering if the appeal of these begins when you get older? Seems like a lot of the market for these is people who are 50+, but I'd like to know if any people under 25 are interested in them.

I will be downvoted to hell but I'll say this- tablets for fun were a fad that most people don't repeat twice (except the tech crazy/HN type crowd). Some people still use tablets for work (something the iLine of devices is horribly deficient at) and surface works well- I think you can install linux too.

I think they have enough use cases that they'll continue to sell, but I think the market is pretty much saturated at this point.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

#147

Post by jxdxbx »

jackfrodo wrote: post #3

I'm 24 years old, work in software. Neither I nor any of my friends uses a tablet for work or pleasure. I guess I know a couple of people who have Surface Pro's, but that's about it. I'm wondering if the appeal of these begins when you get older? Seems like a lot of the market for these is people who are 50+, but I'd like to know if any people under 25 are interested in them.

I stopped using a laptop a while ago. For me, when I need to do complicated work I sit down at a desk with my 30” monitor and clacky keyboard. But on the go and for day-to-day tasks all I need is my 12.9” iPad Pro which, as a bonus, is s much better entertainment machine (reading comics and magazines, video, games) than my laptop ever was. I’m a lawyer fyi, so no I'm not writing apps on the thing or doing fancy multimedia workflows.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

#148

Post by oarsinsync »

jackfrodo wrote: post #3

I'm 24 years old, work in software. Neither I nor any of my friends uses a tablet for work or pleasure. I guess I know a couple of people who have Surface Pro's, but that's about it. I'm wondering if the appeal of these begins when you get older? Seems like a lot of the market for these is people who are 50+, but I'd like to know if any people under 25 are interested in them.

I got a bonus roughly twice the cost of the iPad 2 64GB when it first came out, so I used half of it to buy it on a whim, no use case in mind at the time.

It's now my primary personal computing device. My day job has me in front of a desktop with keyboard all day. I have little to no desire to do things resembling work when I leave the office. My iPhone SE is too small to use for extended periods (but I won't get a bigger one as I want to be able to use it one-handed and hands wont oblige), so the iPad (now an iPad Pro) gets all my outside-the-office attention.

Reading, planning holidays & booking flights, budgeting, Netflix, whatever.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

#149

Post by ashildr »

dchuk wrote: post #91
crazygringo wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got my first iPad a year ago, suspecting I wouldn't use it for anything (and I'm nowhere close to 50). Turns out I couldn't have been more wrong. It's now my primary device for: - Reading and annotating books and papers in PDF format (academic research has never been easier, I use a stylus too) - Mounting to a tripod and recording video (e.g. professional presentations, with a lapel mic connected -- again, screen s…

Out of curiosity, what do you use for PDF annotation?

Not the OP here. I’m an outlier, I’ve been using ‚Devon Think‘ for many years and have multiple Databases of PDF to read and markup and other content syncing between multiple devices.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

#150

Post by pjmlp »

jimbokun wrote: post #145
tolmasky wrote: post #30

It is so weird that the iPad Air and iPad mini only support the old Apple Pencil. The iPad mini was my favorite incarnation of the iPad line when it came out, and I was considering getting one again, but I have no interest in needing two different kinds of iPad pencil. Apple keeps creating and extending these arbitrary transition periods. The old Apple Pencil should be in the past. Instead we have an entire other gen…

Starting to feel like Ballmer era Microsoft. Unforced errors like this seem to be occurring more and more often. Seemingly minor pragmatic issues that will prevent many users from upgrading or leaving the ecosystem altogether, that could easily be avoided.

Actually for old timers it feels like the old Apple, just before Jobs came back.
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