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Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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"an array of tiny infrared LEDs wired to the inside of a baseball cap" I had that idea some years ago, but using instead big powerful IR LEDs around a hat or cap to create a sort of white halo around the entire head. Never tested it...

This works but gets you kicked out of all malls and supermarkets.

For women it might be easier if the LEDs are built into a hair accessory like a hairband. Less of a social stigma than a baseball cap. Glasses work too of course.

(Heh. I used Wikipedia to verify the spelling of 'hair band', but ended up on a page about Glam Metal.)

Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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Even if you can occlude your facial features, you're probably still licked if the particular implementation has gait analysis. We need to develop a fremen-style movement system to subvert the sandworms, I mean surveillance

I guess Kaiser Souse knew what would happen.

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I've read that wearing masks in public is illegal in the US. The laws that made public mask wearing illegal were from an age when the KKK used masks to hide themselves when committing violent crimes and for intimidation purposes.

It's not just illegal, I believe it's a felony in my state.

It's a felony in Virginia. (I believe it's a Class IV felony.) A police officer I knew said it was historically a response to the KKK; but, now, it was used as an additional charge you could "drop" in a plea bargain. I don't know how true that is; but, it does make some sense.

Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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post #15

"an array of tiny infrared LEDs wired to the inside of a baseball cap" I had that idea some years ago, but using instead big powerful IR LEDs around a hat or cap to create a sort of white halo around the entire head. Never tested it...

This works but gets you kicked out of all malls and supermarkets.

Thank you for giving me a compelling reason to try this. I have a stash of IR LEDs lying about and I've been intending to experiment with and IR-decorated hat for a good while now, but basically been too lazy. Now I have to try it!

Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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Here's a pet peeve of mine: The critique of increasing mass surveillance focuses too much on technological problems and abuses by individual humans.

A fully-functioning, automated surveillance society with minimal potential for abuse by individual police etc. would be much worse than the partially-working systems we have now. A surveillance society is the antithesis of a free, democratic society.

The underlying assumption of mass surveillance is that the individuals in societies can not be trusted to work for the best of the society and must be left no option but to conform to the law. This is in stark contrast to the idea that citizens generally see their society as something they wish to preserve, and legislation and law enforcement exists to modify incentives in cases where altruism, self-interest and a sense of social responsibility are insufficient to keep order.

In other words, to support a surveillance society is to give up on the foundations of a democratic society that works to support the goals of its citizens, in favour of a society that treats its citizens as subjects to be ruled over.

This is, of course, a much harder political argument to make than "the tech doesn't work", but it's an argument that needs to be made because one day, the tech will work.

Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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This works but gets you kicked out of all malls and supermarkets.

Thank you for giving me a compelling reason to try this. I have a stash of IR LEDs lying about and I've been intending to experiment with and IR-decorated hat for a good while now, but basically been too lazy. Now I have to try it!

You're gonna notice security guards following you while talking on the radio the minute you turn it on, but God bless you.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This works but gets you kicked out of all malls and supermarkets.

Thank you for giving me a compelling reason to try this. I have a stash of IR LEDs lying about and I've been intending to experiment with and IR-decorated hat for a good while now, but basically been too lazy. Now I have to try it!

Depending on your stash, why stopping at the hat? You can go full body IR and with a good IR-sensible camera you can achieve some nice (and fake and youtube-clicky) "poltergeist" videos!

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"an array of tiny infrared LEDs wired to the inside of a baseball cap" I had that idea some years ago, but using instead big powerful IR LEDs around a hat or cap to create a sort of white halo around the entire head. Never tested it...

This works but gets you kicked out of all malls and supermarkets.

> gets you kicked out of all malls and supermarkets

Which is part of the much wider issue of "pseudo public spaces" - spaces which feel like they're public but which aren't:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-017-0048-6

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jul/24/revealed-pseu...

Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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The self checkout lines in walmart and target have a HD camera right in your face. I have always found these disturbing, they aren't even looking at what I'm buying. Do you guys think they are using facial recognition on these streams?

Most modern checkout experiences can identify you with very high accuracy sans-camera, so I doubt it.

What percentage of shoppers are already carrying the store's loyalty card and are willingly presenting it at the checkout?

What percentage of shoppers have the store's app loaded on their smartphone and carry that willing around too?

Re: Hacking your face to dodge the rise of facial recognition tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This works but gets you kicked out of all malls and supermarkets.

For women it might be easier if the LEDs are built into a hair accessory like a hairband . Less of a social stigma than a baseball cap. Glasses work too of course. (Heh. I used Wikipedia to verify the spelling of 'hair band', but ended up on a page about Glam Metal.)

As if men can't walk around with some led-outfitted metal heads.
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