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Post by setquk »

johnnycab wrote: post #273
setquk wrote: post #27

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He might be knowledgeable but you got shipped what is colloquially known as a “shed” here in the UK. They’re ok when they work but when they don’t they can burn your house to the ground or empty your entire NAS to a random IP in China. You never know if you’ve won.

>colloquially known as a “shed” here in the UK >They’re ok when they work but when they don’t they can burn your house to the ground or empty your entire NAS to a random IP in China. I have never come across the term 'shed' in this context, either in urban slang or formal speak, please can you provide a valid source and/or clarify the origin of this term?

Yes AFAIK it started in Essex where someone would buy a “shed” car typified by the Vauxhall Nova with various attachments to it and drive it around town all night being a “Barry Boy”. As we all got older, grew up and went to work in the city (London) it seems to have been adopted as a definition for anything that looks ok from the outside but is made of sewn together corpses and bits of tape and straw inside.

I’ve heard it used in London and Nottingham regularly.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by carlesfe »

0w4u2a wrote: post #25

Please, allow me to hijack this thread. What's the best Thinkpad I could get in Europe for ~200€ right now? (Off eBay of course). I don't care whether it's 13" or 15". Edit: thanks for all the replies.

I've bought two machines from bluelink.nl, they're a small shop that refubrishes corporate laptops. Both machines worked great and are like new.

(Not affiliated with them, just a happy customer)

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

setquk wrote: post #411
johnnycab wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>colloquially known as a “shed” here in the UK >They’re ok when they work but when they don’t they can burn your house to the ground or empty your entire NAS to a random IP in China. I have never come across the term 'shed' in this context, either in urban slang or formal speak, please can you provide a valid source and/or clarify the origin of this term?

Yes AFAIK it started in Essex where someone would buy a “shed” car typified by the Vauxhall Nova with various attachments to it and drive it around town all night being a “Barry Boy”. As we all got older, grew up and went to work in the city (London) it seems to have been adopted as a definition for anything that looks ok from the outside but is made of sewn together corpses and bits of tape and straw inside. I’ve he…

Drive it around? Blimey, these wealthy types.

I always thought shed came from them being the sort of rust bucket normally found abandoned in a shed. Barely running, owned by someone who can barely fix or fuel it. So it would be somewhere to sit parked - and listen to the crappy stereo at max distortion - with bits falling or rusting off it in time to the bass. Least that's how we used it oop north in the 80s. The car equivalent of a rat bike. Both sewn together corpses, and animal corpses hiding in dark corners...

Pistonhead's Shed of the Week[1] is far too upmarket to be a proper shed - they all work. :)

[1] https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-features-sheds

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Post by danlan »

I'm still using a 2015 MBP and can't bring myself to upgrade. I'd love to see a service like 51NB for Macbook Pro's, does something similar exist? 2018 logic board internals in a 2015 logic board form factor maybe?

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Post by jkepler »

alkonaut wrote: post #191
shasheene wrote: post #48

This is a good time to bring up the fact there was never an industry-wide standardization effort for laptops. A standard form-factor means components would be re-usable between upgrades: the laptop case, power supply, monitor, keyboard, touchpad could all be re-used without any additional effort. This improves repairability, is much better for the environment, and means higher-end components can be selected with the…

Some parts such as batteries, storage, ram etc should at least be a standardized. Manufacturers probably don’t want to standardize on the remaining motherboard/graphics/chassis/cooling because a laptop isn’t like an atx computer where you get modularity at the expense of wasted space. A laptop is basically a 3D puzzle with thermal components. Few consumers would buy a laptop with even a little wasted volume or weight…

I generally agree with your comment. However, when you wrote,

> Same with phones. We aren’t going to see modular phones beyond the concept stage either.

I disagree. I'm writing this on a Fairphone 2, which I bought for its modularity & because running Lineage OS (or any other OS you choose) doesn't void the manufacturer's warranty. While I'm sure Fairphone's sales are small compared to the broader industry, I think they've shown a market exists for ethical, modular phones. I've seen other Fairphones in the wild here in France, as well as seeing them for sale on used goods sites like leboncoin.fr.

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Post by dandruffhead »

mbrumlow wrote: post #246
ggreer wrote: post #207

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I don't lie about battery life numbers. People like to say, "I get 9 hours of battery life." when they mean that they get 9 hours if they do doing nothing but let their computer idle with the brightness at minimum. 4 hours with a 55Wh battery is an average consumption of 13 watts. That's because my typical workflow involves running a VM containing cassandra & postrgres (among other services) and recompiling go and ja…

I get about 9 hours of battery life on my T450s and about 6 on my x220 under load, youtube, vms, coding. That is under load. My idle times, browsing something like HN, or sitting in #emacs I get near 20 hours on my t450s and about 13 on my x220. I think low low low idle power consumption is key to long infrequent charges. This is because the second you are not using your computer then it should also not be using powe…

What OS are you running? I'm really curious on your setup if you're running Linux. I have the same Thinkpad but it's impossible for me to the the idle wattage like that.

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Post by Kurtz79 »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #209
ryacko wrote: post #202

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I just wish there was a portable all-in-one PC with modular components (since vertical parts don’t need as much testing as horizontal). But surplus laptops are in such quantity that I’d be fine replacing my tablet with a laptop.

You can get mini-ITX cases that are smaller than console sized with full sized graphics cards inside... they cost like $300 bucks though :(

Not really, they are mostly around 100 bucks, some have integrated PSUs and might be >200, but 300$ seems like a lot to me.

I'm using a Silverstone ML08 (about 100$ at the time), which is slightly bigger than a PS4 pro but fits a full length, double slot GPU.

The ML05 is even smaller, costs about 50$ but fits only a single-slot GPU.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by tlavoie »

bubblethink wrote: post #297
archon810 wrote: post #249

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Whatever you buy, don't buy the ThinkPad X1 Extreme. Its fans are on all. the. time, and the CPU goes into thermal throttling even when idle. https://www.google.com/search?q=x1+extreme+fans

At this point, the real P series (p52/72), which used to be w series, are probably the only thinkpads that don't throttle. And those have other problems like the inclusion of an nvidia card and off-center keyboards. They've also devalued the T series now.

If it's about the same as the P50 I picked up, the NVidia card is not the default, so it only factors in if the user selects it. The off-center keyboard is a minor nit, I really wanted the numeric keypad (and love the keyboard in general).

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Post by isostatic »

Why don't Lenevo build these types of laptops any more? There's clearly a demand for a laptop with a good keyboard and screen, but "wiring $1200 to someone’s personal bank account in China, then e-mailing a qq.com address." is something I'm not particularly happy with.

I'll just stick to repairing my 9 year old t410s.

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Post by soapdog »

killjoywashere wrote: post #320
dgzl wrote: post #303

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Long lasting battery is the feature I appreciate most from a laptop. My T430 with the extended slice battery gives me 7-10 hours, and could probably get another 3+ if I swapped out the CD drive for the Power Bridge battery. Long live the ThinkPad. Edit: This is with mostly casual use on an Arch Linux setup. I think the next killer feature I want/look for in a laptop is the ability to see the screen in bright sunlight…

> I would mind spending a few hours by the waterfront coding. I do this with an OLPC XO. I also have a Cr-48 with Lubuntu. There's a tradeoff: the XO has a brighter screen but a smaller keyboard.

The OLPC XO with the sunlight readable screen by Pixel Qi is a wonderful machine to use in bright daylight. I love mine.
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