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Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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What do you mean by the velcro strap? Is it the "Sport loop" ( https://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4982/as-images.apple... )?

Exactly that.

Thanks for sharing. Just bought one :)

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I wish there was a heartbeat-measuring watch with the battery life of a dumb watch. My watch goes like 5 years (I've lost count honestly) on its original battery. I'd love to have something watching out for my health but I just can't see myself moving to a smartwatch that needs recharging every 18 hours when I don't even need the smartness crap...

My Amazfit Bip ($99) is supposed to have 45 days and lasts about 30 days on minute heart rate monitoring intervals (based on a month and a half of trying it). I wanted something a bit smaller, to fit under the shirt cuff, so got the Mi Band 3 ($50) which lasts about 10 days (probably 20 days if you don't allow it to display notifications and set a higher HR interval). The Mi app is pretty bad, which forces you to buy…

In regards to the Mi Band 3, there is an app called Mi Band Master, which works a lot better then the original. It exists for both Android and iPhone. I use it for sleep monitoring, and notifications. Battery lasts for about 2 weeks.

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I saw a few posts on Reddit about how the Apple Watch basically saved people's life: https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/a40qm5/heading_... https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/9zrdq5/how_an_a... I'm sure there is a lot more. (Also all the people losing weight)

I wish there was a heartbeat-measuring watch with the battery life of a dumb watch. My watch goes like 5 years (I've lost count honestly) on its original battery. I'd love to have something watching out for my health but I just can't see myself moving to a smartwatch that needs recharging every 18 hours when I don't even need the smartness crap...

I've done a fair amount of research and am still pretty conflicted. I really only care about having a smart watch for the gym. I definitely need music and heart rate tracking but I would also like some app support for workout tracking. Most recently I've started using http://fitbod.me. My main goal is to not carry my phone around at the gym and not be any more connected (read: distracted) than I currently am with my phone.

The Garmin Forerunner 645 Music covers what I need short of the app support. The Nike Apple Watch Series 3 looks very tempting but I really don't like the aesthetic and I feel like it's just perpetuating the problem of being too online all the time. Though it's a far more feature rich device for less than the 645.

I'm thinking I'll sit back and wait for broader app support.

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It's not really the issue of it being 'onerous' (although it is), but that for me, in a watch, reliability is king... heck, if it wasn't, I'd just be using my phone, like many people already do (and which I've also been tempted to do). But there are times when I forget to, say, charge my phone. [1] It's not often, but stuff goes wrong once in a while. Now if I'm short on time the last thing I need is to have to disco…

thats essentially what makes apple watch a non-starter for my smartwatch needs, it accepts only the most regular of charge schedules. I much prefer the pebble or samsung gear which I charge like once a week only for an hour and can rely on as my wallet and sleep tracking even if my phone is dead. I don't want to baby multiple devices, one main work tool is fine to manage battery on a daily basis for instance AirPods…

I take Apple watch off when I shower and put it on the charging puck. After the shower, I put it back on my wrist. Seems pretty easy if one bathes regularly.

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Meanwhile WearOS is a joke both in hardware and software

I am pretty happy with mine (Fossil Sport). Lasts about 2 days on a charge while the display is always on, has all the sensors and most important, I can run my own software on it.

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I work at a related company (Cardiogram), and there's a surprising amount of signal locked in the humble heart rate sensor -- we've run multiple studies with UCSF showing accurate detection of sleep apnea, high blood pressure, and even diabetes using off-the-shelf heart rate sensors and a deep neural network, DeepHeart: https://blog.cardiogr.am/screening-with-wearables-what-do-th... If you're an engineer or payer rel…

Some feedback - your website is very lacking in information about what your app actually does, what devices it works with etc. The blue "personal healthcare assistant" looks like a link but isn't.

I'm curious about your service, but without knowing if it's compatible with my smartwatch etc, I wouldn't go as far as downloading the app.

Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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I saw a few posts on Reddit about how the Apple Watch basically saved people's life: https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/a40qm5/heading_... https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/9zrdq5/how_an_a... I'm sure there is a lot more. (Also all the people losing weight)

I wish there was a heartbeat-measuring watch with the battery life of a dumb watch. My watch goes like 5 years (I've lost count honestly) on its original battery. I'd love to have something watching out for my health but I just can't see myself moving to a smartwatch that needs recharging every 18 hours when I don't even need the smartness crap...

You should look at brands like Garmin and Polar, then. Samsung and Apple put these bright, colorful OLED panels on their smartwatches and drain the batteries too fast. Garmin in particular does a good job of building smartwatches with almost all the features of a Galaxy Watch or Apple Watch, but with a lot more battery life because they aren't wasting so much energy on the bright, pretty screen. Instead, they focus on lower energy LCD panels with backlights. The reason they do this is largely because they are fitness and sports focused and you don't want your watch dying on a two day hike and leaving you stranded, but in day-to-day activity I love having that extra battery life. It makes the drawbacks of a less vibrant screen totally worth it. I still get all my emails, texts, calls, music, etc. except I also get sleep tracking (because I'm not taking it off every time to charge) and less stress.

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It'll probably be more like auto insurance companies where they offer a voluntary tracking program and if you're better than average you get a discount

We're already headed in that direction, for sure. The company I currently work for doesn't run a program through the insurance company directly, but they do make the company contribution to your HSA dependent on you participating in their wellness program. Bonus points if you have a smartwatch that can feed data back. Supposedly none of that info gets back to the company or insurance, but I wouldn't bet on it.

The health insurers have been relatively "smart" (more accurately, subtle) about this by this separation of the tracking/privacy implications into separate "Wellness" programs. In many cases these Wellness programs do seem to be firewalled from insurers with the only information passing between Wellness and Insurance being the simple abstracted metrics of "Level" or "Points", and that by way of presumably only the Benefits coordination aspects of corporate HR.

Though there are still questions of how strong the firewall is in cases where the Wellness programs and Insurance providers share parent companies or even just C-Suite members. Arguably, the separation allows corporate plan buyers to pick and choose Insurance and Wellness program separately, allowing for some competition between them on things like privacy. Yet, being employer-driven "benefits" first and foremost, it's hard to say how much the end consumer/user/employer's privacy is always prioritized, as it is an indirect need of the market.

(Also, every employer I've seen the Wellness program didn't define HSA contributions but rather "discounts" on Insurance premiums, which does seem to indicate that Insurance companies are probably using the Wellness program for risk pools, even with what little data they supposedly are being fed across the firewalls.)

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