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Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by ChuckNorris89 » Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 10:16 PM UTC

throw121212zzz wrote: post #336

philipp-H wrote: post #284

These are unbelievably high salaries. In Germany such salaries are possible only at management positions (not talking about IB) of large companies only. I visited US 3 years back and I found everything better - clothing cheaper, food more delicious, people friendlier and houses bigger. Yes you don't have social security and have poverty issues but I would still be in US than in Europe considering the amount of money…

Don‘t focus on the huge money aspect. There is a lot of selection bias here, only few people make this much outside of some very particular areas/companies. Comparing Germany (where I’m also from) and the US, I’d say that Germany still gives much higher standard of living at the same salary, especially due to lower rents in the big cities. FYI my progression 120k joining top3 mgmt consulting after PhD, stayed for 4yr…

Out of curiosity, what did you study since I've never heard anyone in Germany earning so much out of university?

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by Dunan » Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 10:25 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #608

precisioncoder wrote: post #352

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Europe is all about quality of life raises rather than cash raises. My passion is acrobatics and I negotiated less working hours rather than a big pay raise. This year I'll do partner acrobatics teacher training for a month in spain and still extra time left over for staffing a meditation retreat over christmas. I'm in Austria and my progression is as follows. (All of below hours are flex time, all overtime can be re…

I also moved to Graz, Austria 5 years ago for FW development. What brought you here all the way from Canada and what's your field of activity if I may ask? You aren't also in Graz aren't you? :) I've also noticed this BS in some contracts of Austrian companies that include mandatory overtime or worse, all-in contracts. I tried to negotiate my way out of that but got funny looks and some said that'll hinder any career…

The mandatory overtime is a thing in Japan, too, though it's more like 30-40 hours built into the salary, not 10. You start getting paid 1.25x with your 41st hour of OT in a month.

Salaries are Europe-like, too. Having experienced all three, I'd move from Japan to Europe for the QOL increase before moving to the US to get more money, I think.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by FiddlyPack » Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 11:21 PM UTC

bitcoinmoney wrote: post #186

Bahamut wrote: post #130

I have no qualms letting people know my comp so they know that is possible, and helped many developers in my short 6 year career get better jobs/get life changing comp. Caveat to my numbers - I am an asian male math PhD dropout from a top 15 graduate program who had hardly coded prior to his first developer job. I also have substantial open source contributions to major libraries, starting from my first developer job…

Are you counting vested RSU? A 400k 4-year vesting RSU should only be counted 100k/year. Also, why do you keep getting fired? And do you tell your employers that you got laid off?

Fired =/= Laid-off

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by wbuacuvyyvcf » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 1:22 AM UTC

SWE, based out of Southern Ontario, postgraduate degree, Asian male immigrant, all in CAD

2014 $72K junior, a startup in Kitchener

2016 $75K mid-level, same startup

2017 $100K mid to senior level, a startup in Toronto

2018 $108K senior, same startup

2019 $145K senior, another startup in Toronto

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Post by tmptdotsre » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 3:03 AM UTC

throwawayosiu1 wrote: post #465

So I had posted this earlier but I'll post again with another update. I'm based out of Toronto. 2012 - small business owner - 60k AED / yr (no taxes) - built Wordpress websites in my spare time 2013 - technical cloud marketing intern - 60k / yr CAD - FAANGish company 2013 - contractor - 30k / yr CAD - Engineering consultancy 2014 - Software Dev Fullstack - 22k / yr CAD - early stage startup 2015 - Lead Software Dev F…

Thanks for sharing your salary history. I am also located in Toronto and this is my salary history (all CAD):

  2014 - Junior System Administrator    $42k    - fresh graduate, large company
  2015 - System Administrator           $55k    - large company
  2016 - DevOps Engineer                $80k    - startup
  2018 - Senior DevOps Engineer         $95k    - large company
  2019 - Site Reliability Engineer      $125k   - medium-size company

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Post by thundergolfer » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 4:06 AM UTC

dsaron wrote: post #575

thundergolfer wrote: post #416

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Not nonsense at all. I answered with a list of companies. I got offered $150k+ at Zendesk Melbourne out of uni, but that was a special situation. But also I literally did get that offer so no, 120k is not "nonsense".

You just stated that it was an exceptional circumstance and now we're saying that it's normal. You played your cards right and got out on top, that's great - congrats. I can tell you however, that is not a normal run-of-the-mill pay-scale for a Uni graduate.

Yeah it's not run of the mill, but great graduate candidates can absolutely get $120K+, so it puts into perspective the salary of the thread's OP, who had like 5 years experience.

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Post by madengr » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 9:40 PM UTC

wtfthrowaway1 wrote: post #306

Throwaway account; I am currently in my late 30s. Graduated from Kansas University in 2008. 2008 to 2010 - $50K CTO/co-founder of a small company 2011 - $125K SDE II @ Amazon 2012 - $125K SDE II @ Amazon 2013 - $175K SDE III @ Amazon 2014 - $217K SDE III @ Amazon 2015 - $200K E5 @ Facebook 2016 - $500K E6 @ Facebook 2017 - $800K E7 @ Facebook 2018 - $1M E7 @ Facebook 2019 ~ $1.25M E7 @ Facebook

Damn! I graduated MSEE from KU in ‘96 and make 1/8 that. Don’t go into hardware, kids.

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Post by therealdrag0 » Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 3:04 AM UTC

roberto wrote: post #408

jypepin wrote: post #379

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probably TC, including stocks accumulated that got more value over time.

AFAIK Netflix doesn't give stocks.

According to their website [0]:

  Each employee chooses each year how much of their
  compensation they want in salary versus stock options.
  You can choose all cash, all options, or whatever
  combination suits you

And what's really freaking cool:

  There are no compensation handcuffs (vesting) 
  requiring you to stay in order to get your money.
  People are free to leave at any time, without loss of
  money, and yet they overwhelmingly choose to stay.
  We want managers to create conditions where people love
  being here, for the great work and great pay.

[0] https://jobs.netflix.com/culture

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Post by adrianN » Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 8:46 AM UTC

linuxftw wrote: post #421

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #403

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Yes. I am so tired of people parroting "Do what you love." Real life isn't a Disney movie. Doing what I love, I would be lucky to make $10k a year. You know what else I love beside that? Making enough money to eat. You know what I REALLY like, knowing that I'm making enough money now to GUARANTEE my dreams will come true. Not scaping pennies together as a starting artist, crossing my fingers, and hoping that one day…

> Real life isn't a Disney movie. Doing what I love, I would be lucky to make $10k a year. Unfortunately, an increasing number of people don't feel this way. Their solution is to increase their salary (and benefits) at the ballot box.

Where do I put my cross to make more money as a tea farmer?

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Post by vldx » Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 8:52 AM UTC

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #368

philipp-H wrote: post #284

These are unbelievably high salaries. In Germany such salaries are possible only at management positions (not talking about IB) of large companies only. I visited US 3 years back and I found everything better - clothing cheaper, food more delicious, people friendlier and houses bigger. Yes you don't have social security and have poverty issues but I would still be in US than in Europe considering the amount of money…

In Austria, the upper end for senior developers seems to be 70k. Architect roles seem to range from 70k to somewhere below 100k... Even big companies often have a fixed upper limit, like "we can't give him more than 65k" and they rather wait many months until they find a good one who will work for that money or rather hire "IT consultants" from Accenture/CapGemini etc. that cost more than twice as much. It's kind of…

How much is 70k after taxes in Austria?