The Untold History of Arduino (2016) • Hacker News Board

Re: The Untold History of Arduino (2016)

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Post by landa » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 6:34 PM UTC

00deadbeef wrote: post #10

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #5

And this is why I buy Chinese made clones of Arduino.

I don't even bother with Arduino clones. You can get much better for less money. E.g. in the UK on Amazon an Arduino Uno R3 is £39.99 and a clone with excellent reviews is £6.99. For £5 I can get an ESP8266 on a NodeMCU board - these have more GPIO, much faster CPU, WiFi, drop nicely in to a breadboard, etc. They work with the Arduino IDE with only a tiny bit of configuration. For not much more there's an ESP-32 whic…

I agree. I think the esp8266 is an awesome platform.

I started out with a board from Adafruit: https://www.adafruit.com/product/2471

I later switched to this one for cost savings: https://www.banggood.com/Geekcreit-Doit-NodeMcu-Lua-ESP8266-...

Re: The Untold History of Arduino (2016)

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Post by swiley » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 6:40 PM UTC

00deadbeef wrote: post #10

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #5

And this is why I buy Chinese made clones of Arduino.

I don't even bother with Arduino clones. You can get much better for less money. E.g. in the UK on Amazon an Arduino Uno R3 is £39.99 and a clone with excellent reviews is £6.99. For £5 I can get an ESP8266 on a NodeMCU board - these have more GPIO, much faster CPU, WiFi, drop nicely in to a breadboard, etc. They work with the Arduino IDE with only a tiny bit of configuration. For not much more there's an ESP-32 whic…

Aren't you forced into using the RTOS provided with the devkit though?

I don't like having blobs on my laptop much less in MCU firmware.

Re: The Untold History of Arduino (2016)

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Post by martin_a » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 6:47 PM UTC

I don't really get the whole point in this.

Besides all the things going on with the two Arduino "entities" (which is obscure, sure), is this just about "someone based his work on my student work and didn't ask me"?

What a crybaby. Could have easily founded his own company and make sure nobody can misuse the "invention".

Re: The Untold History of Arduino (2016)

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Post by dsd » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 7:02 PM UTC

miketery wrote: post #6

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #5

And this is why I buy Chinese made clones of Arduino.

What site do you use?

Sparkfun. I've had bad luck with cloned ESP32s. Arduinos seem to be more forgiving for some reason.

Re: The Untold History of Arduino (2016)

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Post by blhack » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 7:02 PM UTC

00deadbeef wrote: post #10

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #5

And this is why I buy Chinese made clones of Arduino.

I don't even bother with Arduino clones. You can get much better for less money. E.g. in the UK on Amazon an Arduino Uno R3 is £39.99 and a clone with excellent reviews is £6.99. For £5 I can get an ESP8266 on a NodeMCU board - these have more GPIO, much faster CPU, WiFi, drop nicely in to a breadboard, etc. They work with the Arduino IDE with only a tiny bit of configuration. For not much more there's an ESP-32 whic…

The esp* boards are 3v logic level, though.

Re: The Untold History of Arduino (2016)

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Post by opencl » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 7:04 PM UTC

swiley wrote: post #12

00deadbeef wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't even bother with Arduino clones. You can get much better for less money. E.g. in the UK on Amazon an Arduino Uno R3 is £39.99 and a clone with excellent reviews is £6.99. For £5 I can get an ESP8266 on a NodeMCU board - these have more GPIO, much faster CPU, WiFi, drop nicely in to a breadboard, etc. They work with the Arduino IDE with only a tiny bit of configuration. For not much more there's an ESP-32 whic…

Aren't you forced into using the RTOS provided with the devkit though? I don't like having blobs on my laptop much less in MCU firmware.

You're not forced to use it and it's not a blob[1].

[1] https://github.com/nodemcu/nodemcu-firmware

Re: The Untold History of Arduino (2016)

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Post by swiley » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 7:11 PM UTC

opencl wrote: post #16

swiley wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't you forced into using the RTOS provided with the devkit though? I don't like having blobs on my laptop much less in MCU firmware.

You're not forced to use it and it's not a blob[1]. [1] https://github.com/nodemcu/nodemcu-firmware

Just looking at that briefly it looks like there are still closed source components. (although they might not be part of the RTOS so I might have been wrong about that)

Re: The Untold History of Arduino (2016)

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Post by ac29 » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 7:12 PM UTC

00deadbeef wrote: post #10

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #5

And this is why I buy Chinese made clones of Arduino.

I don't even bother with Arduino clones. You can get much better for less money. E.g. in the UK on Amazon an Arduino Uno R3 is £39.99 and a clone with excellent reviews is £6.99. For £5 I can get an ESP8266 on a NodeMCU board - these have more GPIO, much faster CPU, WiFi, drop nicely in to a breadboard, etc. They work with the Arduino IDE with only a tiny bit of configuration. For not much more there's an ESP-32 whic…

GP was probably thinking of something like the STM32-based blue pill or black pill, which can be had for ~$2 including shipping the US.

Re: The Untold History of Arduino (2016)

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Post by ficklepickle » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 7:14 PM UTC

swiley wrote: post #12

00deadbeef wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't even bother with Arduino clones. You can get much better for less money. E.g. in the UK on Amazon an Arduino Uno R3 is £39.99 and a clone with excellent reviews is £6.99. For £5 I can get an ESP8266 on a NodeMCU board - these have more GPIO, much faster CPU, WiFi, drop nicely in to a breadboard, etc. They work with the Arduino IDE with only a tiny bit of configuration. For not much more there's an ESP-32 whic…

Aren't you forced into using the RTOS provided with the devkit though? I don't like having blobs on my laptop much less in MCU firmware.

You can even use the arduino IDE thanks to the awesome work of this [0] project.

[0] - https://github.com/esp8266/Arduino

Re: The Untold History of Arduino (2016)

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Post by yeahitslikethat » Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 8:09 PM UTC

blhack wrote: post #15

00deadbeef wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't even bother with Arduino clones. You can get much better for less money. E.g. in the UK on Amazon an Arduino Uno R3 is £39.99 and a clone with excellent reviews is £6.99. For £5 I can get an ESP8266 on a NodeMCU board - these have more GPIO, much faster CPU, WiFi, drop nicely in to a breadboard, etc. They work with the Arduino IDE with only a tiny bit of configuration. For not much more there's an ESP-32 whic…

The esp* boards are 3v logic level, though.

Which makes them perfect for a 3.3v 18650 lion battery. If you're still on arduino and haven't tried an esp8266 chip you owe it to yourself to get one and reshape how you think about electronics.