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Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by dual_basis »

amenod wrote: post #136
Const-me wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’re upgrade-friendly laptops on the market. I’ve replaced RAM, disks, keyboard, LCD, CPU, wireless cards in my laptops. Soldered CPUs are unfortunately inevitable on modern ones, but many other components are still replaceable if you pay attention at the time of purchase. Usually voids warranty but I don’t care too much. As a nice bonus it sometimes saves money. I’ve only picked my netbook for CPU (i3-6157U, 64M…

Agreed. > Soldered CPUs are unfortunately inevitable on modern ones... To be fair, even on desktop replacing a CPU on the same motherboard is a pretty niche thing in my experience. Not to say people don't do this, but most of the people I know upgrade both at the same time, either because of incompatiblity or because of substantial gains with the newer MB. So soldering the two together is not as bad as glueing keyboa…

On a desktop it is possible to replace the motherboard, on a laptop not so much, so not soldering the CPU would at least give you the ability to upgrade the processor to the fastest supported by that motherboard .

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by epanchin »

hopler wrote: post #98
ekianjo wrote: post #64

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> A standard form-factor means components would be re-usable between upgrades We don't even have to go that far. Just ensuring that laptops can be serviced by their own users would go a long way to reduce e-waste. i.e. not soldering RAM chips to the motherboard, making it feasible to remove every single part (not gluing the keyboard to the MB for example), etc... instead of pursuing an ever thinner laptop design, whi…

Consumers prefer super-thin soldered machines, sadly. The proof is in the shopping.

Has Apple offered an upgrade able laptop alongside a non-upgradeable one? Would be possible to draw that conclusion if they sold a new style MacBook Pro alongside an older style one with similar specs.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by nileshk »

stevenwoo wrote: post #141
Causality1 wrote: post #12

This reminds me of just how much I hate whoever came up with chiclet keyboards and ruined laptops forever.

Didn't the Timex Sinclair and IBM PC Jr have that way in the dawn of the PC era? The PC Jr was especially egregious because normal IBM keyboards were pretty great in my memory.

Yes, though the PCjr had a version of the keyboard without the chiclet keys. Also either version was a minimal keyboard without separate function keys or num pad.

I had the non-chiclet keyboard. I now don't want to get a newer MacBook Pro because the lack of function keys and escape key, even though my first computer's keyboard didn't have function keys (though it did have escape).

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by sgc »

airstrike wrote: post #111

> The fan only turns on if I’m doing something intensive like compiling go or scrolling in Slack. There's something terribly wrong with this statement

It's a joke.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by eggy »

veryworried wrote: post #76
eggy wrote: post #17

I have a Lenovo T430u running Kali, and it is rock solid. I love the keyboard, and I use the TrackPoint for CAD work in FreeCAD. I never feel like it is going to slip from my hands when I pull it from my backpack. It is so easy to open up, that I open it twice or more a year to clean out the fans, which are usually clean anyway; I like seeing the internals like a car mechanic who likes to check under the hood ;) I co…

Why in God’s name are you using Kali as a daily driver? Anyone who does this has no idea what they’re doing. Kali is made exclusively for pentesting, with a modified and insecure kernel specifically for running certain pentesting apps better.

Your username matches your reactive, hyperbolic and concerned response. I never said daily driver. The T430u is only one of my many laptops, and I have been coding and hacking, since the 70s. I was running MkLinux on Apple PowerPCs in the mid-90s, early Linux distros thereafter. I did some binary analysis and disassembly work back then, and still dabble, as well as other activities that make Kali a great system for this laptop and for what I use it. I also run Windows 10, Ubuntu, Minix, and MenuetOS on other systems, so don't worry.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by craftyguy »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #118
lelf wrote: post #10

> The fan only turns on if I’m doing something intensive like compiling go or scrolling in Slack . That’s intensive. And sad.

I don't get why people don't just use Slack on Chrome. Everything people rant about when using the Electron-app doesn't happen in Chrome.

Electron is chromium...

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by amenod »

dual_basis wrote: post #151
amenod wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. > Soldered CPUs are unfortunately inevitable on modern ones... To be fair, even on desktop replacing a CPU on the same motherboard is a pretty niche thing in my experience. Not to say people don't do this, but most of the people I know upgrade both at the same time, either because of incompatiblity or because of substantial gains with the newer MB. So soldering the two together is not as bad as glueing keyboa…

On a desktop it is possible to replace the motherboard, on a laptop not so much, so not soldering the CPU would at least give you the ability to upgrade the processor to the fastest supported by that motherboard .

True, you have a point there. Of course, standardizing on a few motherboard forms would be even better... one can always dream. ;)

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by theshrike79 »

kensai wrote: post #104

I am happy to read this review a couple of days after I saw a video of this Unboxing guy evangelizing the use of other Thinkpads. Lenovo is definitely making nice machines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZUSFda_W7k "Unbox Therapy After many years using MacBook variants I've made the switch to Windows. I've used every version of MacBook Pro and MacBook Air that have been released. My current laptop of choice is the…

He's been salty at Apple for years since he made a big fuss about Bendgate (pretty much started it).

Hasn't been invited to an Apple event since. To the surprise of no one.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by mjburgess »

coldtea wrote: post #113
saagarjha wrote: post #6

> Battery life is a little over 4 hours with the flush battery (55Wh) and 6-7 hours with the extended battery (80Wh). Not going to lie, that’s pretty horrible. > Battery life would increase by 50% if I got PC6 or PC8 idle states. The fan only turns on if I’m doing something intensive like compiling go or scrolling in Slack. lol. One of the things that really drives me nuts is my computer’s fan turning on when I know…

> One of the things that really drives me nuts is my computer’s fan turning on when I know really shouldn’t be. I have lived and worked with people for whom having their fan randomly turn on for no reason is completely normal, and I just can’t understand how they can bear it. Yeah, but try standing in their shoes: they too are probably wondering how you can bear getting worked up over such small things such as fans g…

I suspect it's partly a sensory (-integration) issue.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by eggy »

chronolitus wrote: post #89
veryworried wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why in God’s name are you using Kali as a daily driver? Anyone who does this has no idea what they’re doing. Kali is made exclusively for pentesting, with a modified and insecure kernel specifically for running certain pentesting apps better.

Can't you tell? he's hacking e-corp

I still haven't watched the show. Is it good?
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