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Thinkpad X210

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Re: Thinkpad X210

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>Linux worked out of the box. I had to install non-free drivers for the Broadcom wireless card, then tweak a few module options to get better power saving. This is not, for the record, "working out of the box".

The lenovo website lets you custom the hardware, and I chose a non broadcom, so an intel chip I think.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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>Linux worked out of the box. I had to install non-free drivers for the Broadcom wireless card, then tweak a few module options to get better power saving. This is not, for the record, "working out of the box".

> This is not, for the record, "working out of the box".

I have no doubt that some other distros would work just fine without any changes, you're nitpicking.

Re: Thinkpad X210

#23

> Battery life is a little over 4 hours with the flush battery (55Wh) and 6-7 hours with the extended battery (80Wh). Not going to lie, that’s pretty horrible. > Battery life would increase by 50% if I got PC6 or PC8 idle states. The fan only turns on if I’m doing something intensive like compiling go or scrolling in Slack. lol. One of the things that really drives me nuts is my computer’s fan turning on when I know…

I used to use SMC fan control on my older MacBook Pro to just run the fan at medium at all times. Definitely miss that you can't use it on the new touchbar MacBook pros.

Interestingly, macOS has been the only OS where I have not had this be an issue. 95+% of the time the fans are off, and rouge runaway processes are quite rare (which is not true of say Linux or Windows, in my experience).

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Please, allow me to hijack this thread.

What's the best Thinkpad I could get in Europe for ~200€ right now? (Off eBay of course). I don't care whether it's 13" or 15".

Edit: thanks for all the replies.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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post #20
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>Linux worked out of the box. I had to install non-free drivers for the Broadcom wireless card, then tweak a few module options to get better power saving. This is not, for the record, "working out of the box".

> then tweak a few module options to get better power saving What, what these options are? Is there an answer to the mystery of "how to get power management working on a Linux laptop?".

> Is there an answer to the mystery of "how to get power management working on a Linux laptop?"

Or even the easier question “how to get power management working on your Linux laptop”?

Re: Thinkpad X210

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I was interested in the hassle for making a payment and buying something from China. Counter to my view of how the world is supposed to work. Payment hassles probably due to buying from a small group of enthusiasts, not a large company. I haven’t done business directly with anyone in China for a number of years (I helped a student on a project about 10 years ago and a media company had me write a simple machine learn…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14219918#14223933 I bought a NAS off Amazon a few years ago... one of their 3rd party sellers had the same product for $50 cheaper so I went with that. Anyway, what happened next was really amusing to me. I get the product about 8 weeks later... I had tried to cancel because it was so slow, and Amazon wouldn't let me -- they said I had to receive the product and then send it back…

He might be knowledgeable but you got shipped what is colloquially known as a “shed” here in the UK. They’re ok when they work but when they don’t they can burn your house to the ground or empty your entire NAS to a random IP in China.

You never know if you’ve won.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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I was interested in the hassle for making a payment and buying something from China. Counter to my view of how the world is supposed to work. Payment hassles probably due to buying from a small group of enthusiasts, not a large company. I haven’t done business directly with anyone in China for a number of years (I helped a student on a project about 10 years ago and a media company had me write a simple machine learn…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14219918#14223933 I bought a NAS off Amazon a few years ago... one of their 3rd party sellers had the same product for $50 cheaper so I went with that. Anyway, what happened next was really amusing to me. I get the product about 8 weeks later... I had tried to cancel because it was so slow, and Amazon wouldn't let me -- they said I had to receive the product and then send it back…

Great story!

Re: Thinkpad X210

#29
I have a L450, it might not the top-notch quality thinkpad, but it's still pretty good. I have a chiclet keyboard, seems preferable. I had to manually remove the FN, INS, PGDN and PGUP keys though, for more comfortable typing.

Also choosing a graphic chipset instead of a laptop GPU seems like the best option.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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post #22
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>Linux worked out of the box. I had to install non-free drivers for the Broadcom wireless card, then tweak a few module options to get better power saving. This is not, for the record, "working out of the box".

> This is not, for the record, "working out of the box". I have no doubt that some other distros would work just fine without any changes, you're nitpicking.

Ha ha very funny. Yes, just try a lot of other distros until you find one that works, maybe.
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