I just want this kind of thing to finally hit consumer devices. I've been reading about this stuff for years now, and it's really great stuff, but it's all limited to the people who get to be in these studies.
So the Watch is no consumer device?
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#202Does it display systolic and diastolic numbers?
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Everyone has their own threshold, and I respect that, but personally I haven't found it too onerous. I don't wear watches to bed, so I 3D printed a base for the watch charger (it's a magnetically attached inductive charger, no plug) and I just take the watch off my wrist and set it on the charger as I go to bed. Faster than when I had a dumb watch, because I still had to set it down the same way, and the Apple Watch…
It's not really the issue of it being 'onerous' (although it is), but that for me, in a watch, reliability is king... heck, if it wasn't, I'd just be using my phone, like many people already do (and which I've also been tempted to do). But there are times when I forget to, say, charge my phone. [1] It's not often, but stuff goes wrong once in a while. Now if I'm short on time the last thing I need is to have to disco…
thats essentially what makes apple watch a non-starter for my smartwatch needs, it accepts only the most regular of charge schedules. I much prefer the pebble or samsung gear which I charge like once a week only for an hour and can rely on as my wallet and sleep tracking even if my phone is dead.
I don't want to baby multiple devices, one main work tool is fine to manage battery on a daily basis for instance AirPods charge roughly once a week or less depending on usage pattern. There's plenty of tech that balances battery and powerdraw appropriately. I find apple watch misses this mark unless a lot of functions are turned off.
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#204I just want this kind of thing to finally hit consumer devices. I've been reading about this stuff for years now, and it's really great stuff, but it's all limited to the people who get to be in these studies.
So the Watch is no consumer device?
It's an iPhone accessory, not really a consumer product. It can't be used outside of the apple ecosystem without involving an iphone in the process and that stops it from being a widely adopted wearable product. Apple's marketshare is dropping with every yeah and they sell only roughly double the previous smartwatch incumbent, samsung despite apple having a generally more affluent userbase.
I hope this tech reaches more people with less restrictive hardware options.
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Purely anecdotal, but my Series 3 goes about two days on a full charge. I can usually get away with just charging it in the morning while I shower and get ready, and otherwise just wearing all the time. Workouts deplete the battery more, mostly because I’m usually using the GPS in addition to the more frequent heart rate monitoring.
I feel like if I got a watch that did this I'd want it to last at least 3 months on a charge, so I could stop having to remember to charge it... otherwise it's like having a second phone on my hand that I don't need.
Really confused how this comment went from a -3 accumulated over several hours to 0 in the span of maybe 10 minutes...
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#206I work at a related company (Cardiogram), and there's a surprising amount of signal locked in the humble heart rate sensor -- we've run multiple studies with UCSF showing accurate detection of sleep apnea, high blood pressure, and even diabetes using off-the-shelf heart rate sensors and a deep neural network, DeepHeart: https://blog.cardiogr.am/screening-with-wearables-what-do-th... If you're an engineer or payer rel…
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Apple added gamification elements to the Apple Watch. “Closing the rings” which means completing 100% of the move, stand and exercise targets adds a competitive element to fitness which has worked well for many users.
I haven't yet found the rings and other features to be nearly as motivating as when all of my friends had Fitbits and we were connected through their service. That was one thing that kept me from switching faster, I didn't want to give up the Fitbit social network.
The challenges app helps with that: Challenges - Compete, Get Fit by FitNow https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/challenges-compete-get-fit/i...
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It would be a huge invasion of privacy for an insurance company to do this - and not only privacy, but the fact that insurance companies can discriminate based on this data means that the healthy don't end up subsidising the unhealthy (which is the whole point of insurance). SO premiums go up regardless, and only the insurance company win in this scenario. Right now, the right choice is to combat this problem before…
> but the fact that insurance companies can discriminate based on this data means that the healthy don't end up subsidising the unhealthy (which is the whole point of insurance). I agree with your premise about the point of insurance. How is the discussed idea any different than insurance companies giving different rates to older people and denying coverage for pre existing conditions, in terms of discrimination agai…
It’s not different, but denying coverage for pre existing conditions is illegal in the US. Also, there is a limit to the ratio between the highest premium and lowest premium in the insurance pool, along with out of pocket maximums so you will still end up with the healthy subsidizing the unhealthy.
Incentives to make people healthier should not be a problem with these constraints (max premium rations and guaranteed coverage for everyone). It’s no different than offering a lower car insurance premium to someone that doesn’t drive drunk.
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You might like the Withings Steel HR, which has a traditional mechanical watchface, a heart rate sensor, and about 25 days of battery life: https://www.withings.com/us/en/steel-hr/36rgw/shop?screen=de... Some Garmin and Fitbit models have good battery life — often about a week.
I'm the type of person that loves watches and doesn't like smart watches. Personally I find them to be too much distraction. I'm more of a G-Shock wearing type of user, although I've owned many Garmins over the years for working out, but none enough to wear daily. That was until the Garmin Instinct [0]. You can easily get 10-15 days out of it depending on how much you work out and use the GPS for tracking. I also don…
I'm much like you- with a new fitbit charge 3. The thing is positively addictive. I still wear a sailing watch for sailing, but for everything else I use the fitbit, especially for heartrate when I work out and for sleep tracking, which seems pretty good). I can go 5 days or so before I recharge it, but I've never let it go until it was dead so I don't know how much I can push it.
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#210Yeah, it's good at spotting issues... but man, health monitoring creeps me out. I don't want to live in a world where insurance companies and employers force us to hand over this data. Just feels really creepy to me. Like way over the line.
You just invented this situation in your head. No one is handing over health data to insurance companies or employers.
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