Waiting for insurance providers to deny payments basis this data next.
Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, so what? Shouldn’t we be cheering the fact that a consumer device can potentially detect this without ever requiring a much costlier visit to the ER or doctors office? My Apple Watch was a few hundred bucks. My latest ER visit for tachycardia (idle heart rate over 100) came to over $3000, with health insurance. And all they did was tests.
I can't fathom how anyone would pay this. For less than three grand, you could fly to Europe for a weekend, stay in a five star hotel, and have all the tests done while you're there.
An acquaintance did this for knee surgery, I believe, to Spain. It was cheaper, and pintxos are much better recovery food than hospital jello.
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#153A lot of people are overlooking the ultimate consumers of this data or being the usual SV shills. This data and all PHI/PII can be resold to insurance packaged in slightly different ways. Have fun with your 20th century issues in the 21st.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple added gamification elements to the Apple Watch. “Closing the rings” which means completing 100% of the move, stand and exercise targets adds a competitive element to fitness which has worked well for many users.
I haven't yet found the rings and other features to be nearly as motivating as when all of my friends had Fitbits and we were connected through their service. That was one thing that kept me from switching faster, I didn't want to give up the Fitbit social network.
FWIW, Apple Watch has a similar thing; it just has fewer users on in the network…
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#155I can see a future where my doctor gives me a wristband to wear for a month then return as a part of each annual checkup. Though maybe it gets even better than that and we just all start wearing watches again. I want that feature but I'm not a watch wearer.
The future is your insurance company making you wear a smart watch 24/7 if you don’t want to pay a huge premium. I predict it’s going to be a huge quagmire over the next decade or so.
The real issue is how this is implemented. Will they just require that you wear the watch (and act on the data when it shows you have an issue), or share all the health data collected with the insurer?
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#156Public Service Announcement: You can just check your pulse manually for free. AFIB will be irregularly irregular. As as comparing cancer to AFIB it's definitely not accurate to compare the two directly. A very common cause of AFIB in people younger than 60 for example is 'holiday heart' short-term AFIB related to binge drinking, it is generally self-resolving and transitory, and generally does not require treatment e…
> Public Service Announcement: You can just check your pulse manually for free.
Not continuously throughout the day, you can't.
Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, so what? Shouldn’t we be cheering the fact that a consumer device can potentially detect this without ever requiring a much costlier visit to the ER or doctors office? My Apple Watch was a few hundred bucks. My latest ER visit for tachycardia (idle heart rate over 100) came to over $3000, with health insurance. And all they did was tests.
I can't fathom how anyone would pay this. For less than three grand, you could fly to Europe for a weekend, stay in a five star hotel, and have all the tests done while you're there.
That can't be true, if you're not a citizen of a certain country, you don't get subsidies for its services.
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#158i would like this in a watch that doesnt need charging every week. i dont care for touchscreens and games.
It really depends on if you sleep with your watch or not. If you don’t then battery life is really irrelevant because you can rest your watch on a pad and have it charge just like if it were a normal watch.
Although, this can matter if you are separated from a place to charge your watch, or somehow forget to charge it.
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#159A lot of people are overlooking the ultimate consumers of this data or being the usual SV shills. This data and all PHI/PII can be resold to insurance packaged in slightly different ways. Have fun with your 20th century issues in the 21st.
While I think your fear is an important one to keep in mind, Apple doesn't share your data without your consent, and the data is encrypted.
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I understand qualms with the software, but what about the hardware is a joke?
The Qualcomm chips used are a few years old because there isn’t enough demand for Qualcomm to make faster ones. So it’s WAY behind the chip in Apple watches in terms of performance. Even if wear OS was better (never used it myself) it couldn’t compete.
This is pretty much true. Google doesn't seem to particularly care about Wear OS, Qualcomm can't make a decent chip for it, and manufactures aren't coming out with anything compelling. With wearables, it really does seem like it's mostly Apple Watch along with Fitbit, Garmin, and a few others.