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Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Post by GuiA »

chii wrote: post #102
GuiA wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The future is your insurance company making you wear a smart watch 24/7 if you don’t want to pay a huge premium. I predict it’s going to be a huge quagmire over the next decade or so.

It would be a huge invasion of privacy for an insurance company to do this - and not only privacy, but the fact that insurance companies can discriminate based on this data means that the healthy don't end up subsidising the unhealthy (which is the whole point of insurance). SO premiums go up regardless, and only the insurance company win in this scenario. Right now, the right choice is to combat this problem before…

I completely agree with your sentiment. Sadly given the state of privacy, healthcare, lobbying, etc in the US, it is something I am very worried about.

Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Post by ReidZB »

jacquesm wrote: post #12

Like with any medical test: if you do more tests you will find more incidence. The same thing happened with various forms of cancer screening. If we were to test everybody for everything very few people would be found to be 100% and a lot of unnecessary procedures would be the result. Given the obesity problem this result should not be a surprising finding anyway.

The magic here is that this is baked into an otherwise useful, relatively cheap non-medical device. That device (and this test) are also entirely self-service, and the cost for both is borne by the consumer, effectively elective.

Also: The heart beat monitoring features account for some portion of the Apple Watch's price, surely, but I suspect for most people this feels like a "free" benefit.

Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Post by taspeotis »

eli wrote: post #109
brandonb wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird - I was able to reproduce an error in loading https://blog.cardiogr.am/screening-with-wearables-what-do-th... by refreshing. I'll investigate, but for now, try refreshing the page.

Something's wrong with your DNS: https://dnschecker.org/#A/blog.cardiogr.am

They forgot to renew their domain:

    Domain name: cardiogr.am
    Registrar: abcdomain (ABCDomain LLC)
    Status: on hold
    ...
    Registered: 2015-03-17
    Last modified: 2019-03-17
    Expires: 2019-03-17

Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Post by paxswill »

mehrdadn wrote: post #107
aboutruby wrote: post #22

I saw a few posts on Reddit about how the Apple Watch basically saved people's life: https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/a40qm5/heading_... https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/9zrdq5/how_an_a... I'm sure there is a lot more. (Also all the people losing weight)

I wish there was a heartbeat-measuring watch with the battery life of a dumb watch. My watch goes like 5 years (I've lost count honestly) on its original battery. I'd love to have something watching out for my health but I just can't see myself moving to a smartwatch that needs recharging every 18 hours when I don't even need the smartness crap...

Purely anecdotal, but my Series 3 goes about two days on a full charge. I can usually get away with just charging it in the morning while I shower and get ready, and otherwise just wearing all the time. Workouts deplete the battery more, mostly because I’m usually using the GPS in addition to the more frequent heart rate monitoring.

Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Post by brandonb »

taspeotis wrote: post #113
eli wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something's wrong with your DNS: https://dnschecker.org/#A/blog.cardiogr.am

They forgot to renew their domain: Domain name: cardiogr.am Registrar: abcdomain (ABCDomain LLC) Status: on hold ... Registered: 2015-03-17 Last modified: 2019-03-17 Expires: 2019-03-17

You got it—I renewed it 40 minutes ago. Bear with us as we get the renewal processed and DNS propagated.

Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Post by mehrdadn »

paxswill wrote: post #114
mehrdadn wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there was a heartbeat-measuring watch with the battery life of a dumb watch. My watch goes like 5 years (I've lost count honestly) on its original battery. I'd love to have something watching out for my health but I just can't see myself moving to a smartwatch that needs recharging every 18 hours when I don't even need the smartness crap...

Purely anecdotal, but my Series 3 goes about two days on a full charge. I can usually get away with just charging it in the morning while I shower and get ready, and otherwise just wearing all the time. Workouts deplete the battery more, mostly because I’m usually using the GPS in addition to the more frequent heart rate monitoring.

I feel like if I got a watch that did this I'd want it to last at least 3 months on a charge, so I could stop having to remember to charge it... otherwise it's like having a second phone on my hand that I don't need.

Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Post by thisacctforreal »

mehrdadn wrote: post #107
aboutruby wrote: post #22

I saw a few posts on Reddit about how the Apple Watch basically saved people's life: https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/a40qm5/heading_... https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/9zrdq5/how_an_a... I'm sure there is a lot more. (Also all the people losing weight)

I wish there was a heartbeat-measuring watch with the battery life of a dumb watch. My watch goes like 5 years (I've lost count honestly) on its original battery. I'd love to have something watching out for my health but I just can't see myself moving to a smartwatch that needs recharging every 18 hours when I don't even need the smartness crap...

A fitbit might be a good match, my girlfriend's Alta HR lasts a handful of days between charges.

I bought it for her primarily for the hypnograms.

Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Post by Ensorceled »

zzzeek wrote: post #101

this is kind of a trivial question but is the apple watch HR monitor known to be better than that of FitBit? I got a Charge 3 for Christmas and I barely even wear it anymore, as it would say things like "95 bpm" when I'm working out and I'm clearly at around 135 bpm. you can say things like "oh wear it higher / lower / tighter" whatever but if it's that prone to being 40 bpm off the mark, what use is it.

My Apple 3 is dead on unless I'm very sweaty or wearing it loosely (it only needs to be snug). Confirmed with my BP monitor and my Garmin's chest strap (before I retired that system).

I'm a runner so it gets a bit upset when my resting heart rate gets below 50 but other than that ...

Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Post by jacksproit »

GuiA wrote: post #99
Waterluvian wrote: post #92

I can see a future where my doctor gives me a wristband to wear for a month then return as a part of each annual checkup. Though maybe it gets even better than that and we just all start wearing watches again. I want that feature but I'm not a watch wearer.

The future is your insurance company making you wear a smart watch 24/7 if you don’t want to pay a huge premium. I predict it’s going to be a huge quagmire over the next decade or so.

It'll probably be more like auto insurance companies where they offer a voluntary tracking program and if you're better than average you get a discount

Re: Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study

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Post by crdb »

mehrdadn wrote: post #107
aboutruby wrote: post #22

I saw a few posts on Reddit about how the Apple Watch basically saved people's life: https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/a40qm5/heading_... https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/9zrdq5/how_an_a... I'm sure there is a lot more. (Also all the people losing weight)

I wish there was a heartbeat-measuring watch with the battery life of a dumb watch. My watch goes like 5 years (I've lost count honestly) on its original battery. I'd love to have something watching out for my health but I just can't see myself moving to a smartwatch that needs recharging every 18 hours when I don't even need the smartness crap...

My Amazfit Bip ($99) is supposed to have 45 days and lasts about 30 days on minute heart rate monitoring intervals (based on a month and a half of trying it).

I wanted something a bit smaller, to fit under the shirt cuff, so got the Mi Band 3 ($50) which lasts about 10 days (probably 20 days if you don't allow it to display notifications and set a higher HR interval).

The Mi app is pretty bad, which forces you to buy an extra app (for me, Notify & Fitness, for Google Fit sync).

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