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As Costs Skyrocket, More U.S. Cities Stop Recycling

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Re: As Costs Skyrocket, More U.S. Cities Stop Recycling

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I assure you that anything metal gets recycled. It's much cheaper to recycle than dig more ore out of the ground. tosses brake rotors in city recycling pickup bucket

Have you ever been to Australia where iron ore is less than 1 meter below ground?

Is that really true?

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It makes me wonder if we were ever really recycling, or if "recycling" was a marketing buzzword for "cheaply dumping your trash in China". I seem to remember a lot of controversy over recycling in the 80s and early 90s, with my local town government insisting it was too expensive. Suddenly everything changed in the late 90s, right around the time that globalization took off, and recycle bins took off everywhere. By t…

I assure you that anything metal gets recycled. It's much cheaper to recycle than dig more ore out of the ground. tosses brake rotors in city recycling pickup bucket

I assume there's a lot of things cheaper to recycle than to create new, but the problem is how to extract/separate it out of an overwhelming stream of unrelated materials, is it not?

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California has this as well -- CRV, but I dont see too many people taking advantage of it. Part of the problem is that most stores dont accept the bottles back -- you need to bring them to a recycling dropoff point that seem to be relatively rare and far in between.

The recycling locations also significantly underpay CRV in my experience: if you show up with more than a small amount (I think the threshold is about 40 items) they'll only "pay by weight" at a rate that seems to be maybe half of the per item CRV (based on a single time I bothered to count it out in advance). Going more frequently with smaller amounts would pay more but waste more time... and I estimated that it did…

almost every rung of the recycling ladder is beset by small cheating like this.. second note is, many, many honest recyclers simply die economically after some amount of hardship, depending on the setup

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Recycling has nothing to do with plastic pollution. Plastics that don't get recycled instead get buried in a hole in the ground.

It’s not clear to me what the point of this comment is. Do you mean to imply that when walking the southern coast of Tasmania I don’t see the area densely littered with plastics? Or perhaps you meant to imply that the oceans aren’t littered with plastic such that cetaceans are dying from eating too much of it? These don’t sound like arguments anyone would intentionally make. Are you certain recycling has nothing to d…

Recycled plastic is the kind thrown in bins. If you remove recycling programs, it still gets thrown in a bin. Not polluted.

Re: As Costs Skyrocket, More U.S. Cities Stop Recycling

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It’s not clear to me what the point of this comment is. Do you mean to imply that when walking the southern coast of Tasmania I don’t see the area densely littered with plastics? Or perhaps you meant to imply that the oceans aren’t littered with plastic such that cetaceans are dying from eating too much of it? These don’t sound like arguments anyone would intentionally make. Are you certain recycling has nothing to d…

Recycled plastic is the kind thrown in bins. If you remove recycling programs, it still gets thrown in a bin. Not polluted.

Ah, right, I see where you were going with that.

Re: As Costs Skyrocket, More U.S. Cities Stop Recycling

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California has this as well -- CRV, but I dont see too many people taking advantage of it. Part of the problem is that most stores dont accept the bottles back -- you need to bring them to a recycling dropoff point that seem to be relatively rare and far in between.

It's also too cheap. The deposit needs to be significant to make sure people bring things back.

Only enough to make very poor people collect it. In most of the bigger German cities it is considered rude to put a deposit-system beverage container inside a public trash can, you are supposed to put them on top of below, or even in a special tray so that collectors don't need to use their little LED flashlights to search the inside. Some progressive beverage companies have even made it part of their brand identity to print instructions for easily accessible abandoning on their labels.

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post #98

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Generally when I reach a certain number of points I destroy the account by changing the password to something that I can’t remember and I don’t use an email address with my accounts. There is no delete option that I’m aware of. I’ve been on the site for a long time. Since the beginning. I didn’t know you guys kept track of MAC addresses or however else you track this stuff. I won’t do it again. This is the push I’ve…

I think you mean IP addresses. :-)

IP addresses change.

Re: As Costs Skyrocket, More U.S. Cities Stop Recycling

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It makes me wonder if we were ever really recycling, or if "recycling" was a marketing buzzword for "cheaply dumping your trash in China". I seem to remember a lot of controversy over recycling in the 80s and early 90s, with my local town government insisting it was too expensive. Suddenly everything changed in the late 90s, right around the time that globalization took off, and recycle bins took off everywhere. By t…

What if all the "progress" was just an illusion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Merchants#Plot_summa...

"Through advertising, the public is constantly deluded into thinking that the quality of life is improved by all the products placed on the market."

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