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Re: Facebook’s algorithm change has spurred an angry, Fox News-dominated News Feed

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Post by 1337biz »

volak wrote: post #11

Fox News dominates ratings on TV so its not surprising they'd be #1 - there's also the fact this is "engagements" and not click-throughs. I'd wager good 15% of these are probably people clicking "Angry" not actually engaging. If you look at "content with the most shares" not surprisingly Reuters and Patch tops the list. OP's headline presumes any algorithm should achieve left/right balance - this is just impossible.…

One could also see that as evidence that traditional media outlets are holding on to an out of date business model and have at the same time lost the middle-right/right audience. The only media catering to their frame of looking at news are Fox or digital-only news services that fully embrace the free-news experience.

Re: Facebook’s algorithm change has spurred an angry, Fox News-dominated News Feed

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Post by cronix »

sametmax wrote: post #60
volak wrote: post #11

Fox News dominates ratings on TV so its not surprising they'd be #1 - there's also the fact this is "engagements" and not click-throughs. I'd wager good 15% of these are probably people clicking "Angry" not actually engaging. If you look at "content with the most shares" not surprisingly Reuters and Patch tops the list. OP's headline presumes any algorithm should achieve left/right balance - this is just impossible.…

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> a country that elected Bush then Trump

> Not very reassuring.

You left out 8 years of Obama somewhere in there.

Re: Facebook’s algorithm change has spurred an angry, Fox News-dominated News Feed

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Post by 1337biz »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #84
volak wrote: post #11

Fox News dominates ratings on TV so its not surprising they'd be #1 - there's also the fact this is "engagements" and not click-throughs. I'd wager good 15% of these are probably people clicking "Angry" not actually engaging. If you look at "content with the most shares" not surprisingly Reuters and Patch tops the list. OP's headline presumes any algorithm should achieve left/right balance - this is just impossible.…

So people tell me Breitbart is a propaganda machine financed by political manipulators, but Fox is certainly run like a business. What is Fox doing to make their content free that NYT and WSJ can't t?

Breitbart's staffing seems also incredibly small. I don't think they produce more than 10 stories per day, with most of them just rewrites of other stories and putting their ideological spin to it. You can do this with maybe 3-5 editors and some freelancers. I suspect they are highly profitable.

Re: Facebook’s algorithm change has spurred an angry, Fox News-dominated News Feed

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Post by 1337biz »

tmaly wrote: post #72

I have started to use FB for only humor and private groups about side projects. I got tired of all the politics and news. If it bleeds it leads keeps the mind steeped in negativity.

I am using FB the same way. The only thing left making it useful are the groups and the event calendar function. Meetup still seems mostly driven by tech or some super niche topics while FB carters to a broad audience.

Re: Facebook’s algorithm change has spurred an angry, Fox News-dominated News Feed

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Post by dumitrupetrov »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #76
matt4077 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those three are not the “left-wing equivalent” of Fox. See, for example, the media bias chart: https://www.adfontesmedia.com Left equivalents of Fox are Daily Kos et al.

Can we talk about how Fox News is literally at the intersection of the Yellow, Orange, and Red rectangles? For context: - Yellow: Fair interpretation of the news - Orange: Extreme/unfair interpretation of the news - Red: Nonsense damaging to the public discourse

And that's what said other rival left leaning Media outlet's. Nice.

Because you 'obviously' know what's better for those people, that's what your TV said, 'fox news is bad'.

Re: Facebook’s algorithm change has spurred an angry, Fox News-dominated News Feed

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Post by sharkvszombie »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #84
volak wrote: post #11

Fox News dominates ratings on TV so its not surprising they'd be #1 - there's also the fact this is "engagements" and not click-throughs. I'd wager good 15% of these are probably people clicking "Angry" not actually engaging. If you look at "content with the most shares" not surprisingly Reuters and Patch tops the list. OP's headline presumes any algorithm should achieve left/right balance - this is just impossible.…

So people tell me Breitbart is a propaganda machine financed by political manipulators, but Fox is certainly run like a business. What is Fox doing to make their content free that NYT and WSJ can't t?

Running an extremely profitable cable news channel. Their content isn't free, their web content is free and is paid for by their cable channel.

Re: Facebook’s algorithm change has spurred an angry, Fox News-dominated News Feed

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Post by dumitrupetrov »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #54
matt4077 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny dog videos are “comfort food”. Fox News is hate porn.

Fox runs approx ~50% negative content on Trump. MSNBC run 92%+ negative [0] [1] [2] If your view of Fox News was largely based from 2008 and The Daily Show - How could you know? With a blanket statement like “Fox News is hate porn” you clearly aren’t seeking alternative viewpoints. This isn’t even getting into that you are lumping Fox NEWS and Fox News Channel Opinion Shows together which isn’t unfair to do so long a…

Apparently facts don't work on the left when they contradict their belief. I tried it's not working. Just like pre-programmed NPC's.

Re: Facebook’s algorithm change has spurred an angry, Fox News-dominated News Feed

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Post by saltvedt »

I've created a news aggregator based on Wikipedia references. While this might be comparing apples to oranges, here's the list of the most cited websites by Wikipedia: https://cited.news/domains

It's still a bit buggy, so the "blank" domain is ranked #1, followed by NY Times, BBC and The Guardian.

Fox News is ranked at #93 at that list: https://cited.news/domains/show/www.foxnews.com/citations

Re: Facebook’s algorithm change has spurred an angry, Fox News-dominated News Feed

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Post by sodosopa »

kodz4 wrote: post #66
ModernMech wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, Rachel Maddow is probably the best example on air of non-fear-based programming. She usually spends the first 10 or so minutes of her show putting the forthcoming topic in historical context, and then proceeds with a rational, calm, and thoughtful examination of the topic. This oftentimes involves verbatim reading of court transcripts for 20 minutes. The majority of her show is a fixed camera on her with a stat…

Not sure why you need to be downvoted. I think the commonality is that Rachel Maddow and the talking heads at Fox News aren't journalists. They spend their time telling their audiences how to think. They just do it differently. If you want the news rather than someone telling you how to think you don't need either. Btw Glenn Greenwald has reported about the biases of Rachel Maddow quite a number of times.

Greenwald has also been complicit with Assange and Wikileaks. He shouldn’t be the torchbearer around reporting biases.

Re: Facebook’s algorithm change has spurred an angry, Fox News-dominated News Feed

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Post by Mirioron »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #84
volak wrote: post #11

Fox News dominates ratings on TV so its not surprising they'd be #1 - there's also the fact this is "engagements" and not click-throughs. I'd wager good 15% of these are probably people clicking "Angry" not actually engaging. If you look at "content with the most shares" not surprisingly Reuters and Patch tops the list. OP's headline presumes any algorithm should achieve left/right balance - this is just impossible.…

So people tell me Breitbart is a propaganda machine financed by political manipulators, but Fox is certainly run like a business. What is Fox doing to make their content free that NYT and WSJ can't t?

I don't know whether Breitbart is propaganda or not. I've only read a handful of articles from it, but from the few I've seen, I like that they source their statements with hyperlinks. Take this one for example: https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/03/15/italy...

When the text says that Reuters published an article about a topic they actually link to it. I wish other news sites did the same.

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