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Re: Launch HN: Bottomless (YC W19) – Coffee Restocked with a Smart Scale

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post #135

I think meds might be a useful application of this tech, problem is the restocking. You could maybe partner with CVS or Walgreens to do the integration and help pay for hardware.

PillPack solves the same problem more elegantly. They pack meds in accordance with one's prescribed schedule and dosage. Zero-effort, always there when you need it, no measuring, no counting, no sorting.

Re: Launch HN: Bottomless (YC W19) – Coffee Restocked with a Smart Scale

#242
post #135

I think meds might be a useful application of this tech, problem is the restocking. You could maybe partner with CVS or Walgreens to do the integration and help pay for hardware.

PillPack solves the same problem more elegantly. They pack meds in accordance with one's prescribed schedule and dosage. Zero-effort, always there when you need it, no measuring, no counting, no sorting.

Wasn't aware of that, looks like a nice program. I was pretty deep into some local efforts around opiod abuse and something like this could be instrumental in helping prevent meds pilfering by other people in the household.

Re: Launch HN: Bottomless (YC W19) – Coffee Restocked with a Smart Scale

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I'm trying to understand if I'm your target audience, maybe you can help. I make espresso at home and primarily enjoy premium roasters. By my spreadsheet logs I average ~39 espresso shots/mo, or ~2.1 bags/mo assuming an average of 18g shots. But that frequency can vary with things like travel, etc. Really what I want is to be able to pick from a variety of my favorite beans across different roasters, and have them de…

As someone who ran a retail e-commerce operation for a decade I strongly advise against building a company to serve customers with such exacting requirements unless your unit economics are way better than you will see selling any variety of bean.

I was just sharing stats because I happened to have the spreadsheet up. I'm a data nerd so I modeled out my coffee consumption to prove it paid for itself to drink better coffee at home.

That said, the convenience of having a bag of beans of my choosing delivered right when I'm about to run out, but not so far in advance that they start hitting that 2wk+ staleness threshold (I don't need it to be as exact as I stated), all without going to the store, is a nice convenience. I'm excited to see a product like this that can remove one more thing I needed to worry about from my life.

Re: Launch HN: Bottomless (YC W19) – Coffee Restocked with a Smart Scale

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Yet another startup that throws tech at a non-issue. People buying cheap coffee just do that when doing their groceries. And people buying expensive ones are probably inclined to try new ones based on recommendations of their local dedicated store. Congratulations, you removed chit-chat with the clerk, smelling the different varieties of products, buying something unplanned, i.e. what’s make interesting to go buying…

> And people buying expensive ones are probably inclined to try new ones based on recommendations of their local dedicated store.

Local third wave coffee shops can only afford to stock a small variety from a small number of roasters due to the short lifespan of freshly roasted coffee. There are several online multi-roaster coffee marketplaces e.g., Crema.co, because the broad variety problem is not feasible to solve locally.

If you know that you like a fairly specific kind of coffee, like a natural process fruit-forward Ethiopian, you are lucky to find 1-2 versions of this locally at a given time whereas online you might find a dozen or more.

The best thing you can do to support your local shop is buy their freshly brewed coffee or espresso drinks (and tip the baristas well). Much more of their profit comes from that than bulk beans.

I support both personally and don't see them as conflicting with each other.

Re: Launch HN: Bottomless (YC W19) – Coffee Restocked with a Smart Scale

#245

Yet another startup that throws tech at a non-issue. People buying cheap coffee just do that when doing their groceries. And people buying expensive ones are probably inclined to try new ones based on recommendations of their local dedicated store. Congratulations, you removed chit-chat with the clerk, smelling the different varieties of products, buying something unplanned, i.e. what’s make interesting to go buying…

I’m a big coffee fan, but my routine leaves me buying whatever is fresh from Counter Culture at Whole Foods. I don’t make regular trips to a coffee shop, because it doesn’t fit my schedule. If many of those roasters are decent, this would give me more variety. And today I definitely end up running out of beans at inconvenient times. Price: I brew at home, and buy roughly two bags a month, typically $11-14/bag. So I’d…

One thing to be mindful of is the roast date.

Whole Foods might be better at this than others (I'm not sure) but many grocery stores, even high-end specialty ones, have coffee sitting on their shelves that was roasted 3–6 months ago. Even worse, sometimes the roast date will be omitted from the bag entirely (or replaced by an arbitrary made-up "best by" date) because the coffee is embarrassingly old.

A good third wave shop will sell beans with a roast date of about a week or less. Most baristas recommend beans tasting best when used within 2–3 weeks of roast date.

I suspect you'll get much fresher beans ordering through a service like Bottomless that drop ships directly from the roaster. It might be something you've never thought about until you've tasted the difference between freshly roasted vs not. Not everyone cares about freshness but it's very important to me.

Re: Launch HN: Bottomless (YC W19) – Coffee Restocked with a Smart Scale

#246
post #223

I would have loved this for baby formula. But I'm not sure if a family buys that for a long enough time for this to make sense for that. And most people try to avoid it nowadays. It also keeps for a pretty long time. Our formula stock was a daily discussion. Will this last through the night? Running out was always a red alert though. Hungry babies don't care what time it is.

Perfect example of where this product is useless. Just have it automatically deliver on set intervals, that can easily be adjusted. Have a bit too much is not an issue, it doesn't have to be fresh. Besides, you should be breastfeeding.

> Besides, you should be breastfeeding

Not everyone can. And you get an incredible amount of shit from basically everyone in society if you don't. We even had one nurse call formula poison.

Re: Launch HN: Bottomless (YC W19) – Coffee Restocked with a Smart Scale

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m a big coffee fan, but my routine leaves me buying whatever is fresh from Counter Culture at Whole Foods. I don’t make regular trips to a coffee shop, because it doesn’t fit my schedule. If many of those roasters are decent, this would give me more variety. And today I definitely end up running out of beans at inconvenient times. Price: I brew at home, and buy roughly two bags a month, typically $11-14/bag. So I’d…

One thing to be mindful of is the roast date. Whole Foods might be better at this than others (I'm not sure) but many grocery stores, even high-end specialty ones, have coffee sitting on their shelves that was roasted 3–6 months ago. Even worse, sometimes the roast date will be omitted from the bag entirely (or replaced by an arbitrary made-up "best by" date) because the coffee is embarrassingly old. A good third wav…

Agreed on both points.

Counter Culture labels its coffee with roast date and is local, which is part of the reason it’s one of the only coffees I buy at the grocery store: they always have something I like, usually roasted within 4-14 days. If bottomless is doing this right, everything will be towards the lower end of that range, so that’s a draw.

Re: Launch HN: Bottomless (YC W19) – Coffee Restocked with a Smart Scale

#248
post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perfect example of where this product is useless. Just have it automatically deliver on set intervals, that can easily be adjusted. Have a bit too much is not an issue, it doesn't have to be fresh. Besides, you should be breastfeeding.

> Besides, you should be breastfeeding Not everyone can. And you get an incredible amount of shit from basically everyone in society if you don't. We even had one nurse call formula poison.

Most people can but don’t, especially in the US. Partly because of insane parental leave rules, mothers are expected to go back to work after a few weeks. But a lot of people just don’t want to, and that’s about as stupid as refusing to vaccinate.

Re: Launch HN: Bottomless (YC W19) – Coffee Restocked with a Smart Scale

#249

If this is serious, you are solving the wrong problem. You assume that you can mail order the coffee your clients want through an API, this is the hard part. It's not hard for people to know and signal that they want more coffee. But even worse, you limit coffee variety to a small fraction, most gourmet beans don't even have websites. But if we are assuming API-reachable mail ordering, here are some much simpler solu…

>An amazon button next to the grinder. Amazon just announced, a little over a week ago, that they are killing the Dash buttons. As part of the announcement, they said they believe that the whole concept has outlived it's usefulness and has been replaced by voice ordering with virtual assistants ("Alexa, order coffee"). I think the real problem was that the idea of having a separate button for every product was untena…

Yes i know they did, but it would still be a much better solution to this “problem”. I think those buttons are a nice idea by the way, i’m surprised it failed!

Re: Launch HN: Bottomless (YC W19) – Coffee Restocked with a Smart Scale

#250

Yet another startup that throws tech at a non-issue. People buying cheap coffee just do that when doing their groceries. And people buying expensive ones are probably inclined to try new ones based on recommendations of their local dedicated store. Congratulations, you removed chit-chat with the clerk, smelling the different varieties of products, buying something unplanned, i.e. what’s make interesting to go buying…

You're basically making an argument against all e-commerce.

Lol
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