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WhatsApp co-founder accuses Facebook of trading privacy for revenue

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Re: WhatsApp co-founder accuses Facebook of trading privacy for revenue

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I just want to say, if I were in his position, I would also trade my company for sweet millions of dollars.

But at least I would not constantly call out the people I sold it to, as if my words had any meaning at that point.

Also, it's frustrating to me, to see how it's seemingly impossible to care about the users AND have enough users bringing in revenue at the same time so that you are never in a position where big companies try to blackmail you with sweetsane amounts of money into giving them access to data.

Edit: After reading the responses, I must correct myself. The turmoil within the human soul is much more nuanced, rendering "stop flame, whin0r" an inadequate response. The only thing I know is that I'd probably have done the same, as I reckon most would have.

Re: WhatsApp co-founder accuses Facebook of trading privacy for revenue

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I just want to say, if I were in his position, I would also trade my company for sweet millions of dollars. But at least I would not constantly call out the people I sold it to, as if my words had any meaning at that point. Also, it's frustrating to me, to see how it's seemingly impossible to care about the users AND have enough users bringing in revenue at the same time so that you are never in a position where big…

I see nothing hypocritical about good people taking payment from evil people. “Payment” means that the resources of the payer go down, and the resources of the payee go up. Now Facebook have less money that they can use to influence the world in stupid/evil ways, and the WhatsApp founders have more money they can use to influence the world in good ways.

And, in exchange, since Facebook now owns the service of WhatsApp, they have the adopted duty of popularizing it—a service that inherently resists the kind of centralized analytical approaches Facebook uses to make money, and steals users away from Facebook in ways that makes it harder for Facebook to track those same isers. Win/win for the WhatsApp founders’ perspective; lose/lose from Facebook’s perspective. It’s a wonder they went for it. (It’s sort of like if Google were to acquire Brave: all they’d get is a browser that steals Chrome users and inherently prevents Google from tracking them, that nobody would accept if it was turned into not-that, because that’s its whole thing.)

Re: WhatsApp co-founder accuses Facebook of trading privacy for revenue

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The irony of this being published on The Daily Mail , one of the English language publishing world's absolute shoddiest sensationalist tabloids.

Yes. I doubt they understand the mindset of somebody who strive to write secure communications and then sold out to an avowed 'privacy is dead' company. A mindset I also fail to understand entirely but I suspect differently to the paper.

Re: WhatsApp co-founder accuses Facebook of trading privacy for revenue

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I installed signal, only three of my contacts use it. One is a journalist, one is an artist/designer who does a lot in the crypto space and the last is a fellow enterprise architect. The first two are also active WhatsApp users.

I’m as concerned about Facebook as everyone else, but you can’t seem to get around the fact that it’s the modern yellow pages. It’s the only platform,l everyone has, and it’s just incredible hard to get around that.

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