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Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #29

He's nice and all, but can we go back to electing Presidents who have had lots of executive and political experience ?

Is it safe to say your preference is former Governors?

I think "lots of executive and political experience" means he wants the incumbent. The only other eligible person with comparable experience is Bush Sr.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #46

He named his BBS "TacoLand". He should definitely play up this angle...maybe campaign on a taco cart on every corner. I know people who will vote for him for that alone. This piece is a disaster. It's an excerpt from a soon to be released book, it's light on facts about O'Rourke and is at least equally about Cult of the Dead Cow, it's trying to make things sound more nefarious than they were, and it's playing the gui…

> He named his BBS "TacoLand". It certainly wouldn't have been unusual for a young Beto O'Rourke (or any other Texan) to have tacos on his mind for any number of reasons, but "Taco Land" was the name of a punk bar in San Antonio. It was well known to Texas punks and their ilk and was immortalized by the Dead Milkmen in the late 80s by their song "Tacoland".

Indeed. "You'll understand, when you go on down to tacoland." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsDmUcvrCbI

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #353
post #140

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We are in a world where the exact same video of Beto skateboarding was posted by both opponents and supporters and each saw what they wanted in it. I would challenge the idea that being a “hacker” polls well for a presidential candidate. Recall that “hacking” was a bit of a problem in 2016.

Fox News: "Young Beto O'Rourke wrote 'murder fantasy' about running over children, was part of famed hacking group: report" CNET: "Beto O'Rourke has serious hacker credentials. The presidential candidate was a member of hacker group Cult of the Dead Cow" WaPo: "'Psychedelic Warlord': Beto O'Rourke's past life as a teenage hacker" and "Beto O’Rourke’s hacking universe, explained." Sources: https://www.foxnews.com/poli…

I thought you made these headlines up to show how the same news might hypothetically be presented by different outlets and thought you got them pretty spot on. Then I saw the sources. What a sad world we live in.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #376

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The fact that this is coming out so early in the presidential cycle is a good thing for him though. Lots of time for it to become old news. Lots of time for him to spin it. He seems to be good at spin. Anyway this makes me respect him more. Anyone know his handle btw?

This was intentionally pushed by his campaign precisely for that reason - to get all the dirt out while they can control the spin. Better to burn the story now that he’s “just” a primary candidate.

Do you have evidence for that or are you guessing? (I have nothing against guessing, but I'd like to know when that's what people are doing)

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #298

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>> "When he was younger, he was arrested on drunk-driving charges" >That will follow him into the campaign far more than his CDC membership. Will it? It didn't hurt George W. Bush. Admitting to smoking pot didn't hurt Obama. And Donald Trump... Jesus wept, Donald Trump.

Smoking pot is not the same as endangering lives. Also Donald Trump doesn't drink, let-alone drink and drive. There's few crimes that are more dangerous than drinking and driving.

The point is that these people all have incidents in their past which should, in theory, have hurt them politically, but which in practice, didn't.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Why can't both of these groups be considered hackers?

They both are, with differing connotations.

So then what point are you even trying to make? If the lowest common denominator here is still a hacker, trying to make the argument that they aren't technically "hackers" doesn't make sense.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #50

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Yang doesn’t have a snowballs chance in hell. He’s posturing just to raise his own public profile.

Why would he though? He doesn’t have a brand like Trump does.

Not yet

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that this is coming out so early in the presidential cycle is a good thing for him though. Lots of time for it to become old news. Lots of time for him to spin it. He seems to be good at spin. Anyway this makes me respect him more. Anyone know his handle btw?

This was intentionally pushed by his campaign precisely for that reason - to get all the dirt out while they can control the spin. Better to burn the story now that he’s “just” a primary candidate.

I mean that would make sense but source?

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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They both are, with differing connotations.

So then what point are you even trying to make? If the lowest common denominator here is still a hacker, trying to make the argument that they aren't technically "hackers" doesn't make sense.

I'm sorry, I'm not going to let you pretend like this is unclear. The debate over the meaning of the word "hacker" is the most famous semantic debate in this community, and one of the most famous on the Internet. The meaning connoted by the title of this site derives from the MIT hacker community. The meaning connoted by cDc is the the one from the movie Wargames. And this hasn't "changed since the 1980s"; the debate itself dates back that far.

The argument isn't about whether Beto was a part of hacker culture at all. Clearly, he was. It just wasn't the hacker culture the OP was referring to.

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