Live data from Hacker News

California declared drought free for first time in seven years

reuters.com

101–110 of 242 posts

Re: California declared drought free for first time in seven years

#101
post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought California. Has the best climate in the country?

Along the coast and in some mountain areas it's perfect. Otherwise it's a f...ing desert.

I dig the desert. It’s nice to escape to e.g. Joshua Tree.

Later this summer I’ll be hiking Mt. Whitney, and will swing through Death Valley on the way home. 15k altitude change in a few hours.

Re: California declared drought free for first time in seven years

#102
post #89
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is it legal to get rain barrels and other types of rain collection systems?

Of course it is generally legal to collect rain from your roof, assuming local HOA rules allow it. But you won’t likely get much quality water from that. Better would be greywater collection and recycling.

He's asking because in some states it's illegal to collect rain water, it belongs to someone else. Colorado, for example, only recently legalized rain barrels - but limits it to only 2: https://source.colostate.edu/extension-offers-fact-sheet-on-...

Re: California declared drought free for first time in seven years

#103
post #89
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is it legal to get rain barrels and other types of rain collection systems?

Of course it is generally legal to collect rain from your roof, assuming local HOA rules allow it. But you won’t likely get much quality water from that. Better would be greywater collection and recycling.

[deleted]

Re: California declared drought free for first time in seven years

#104

Tell that to my water bill, the drought surcharge is still over 50% of the bill...

The reason for the surcharge is Orwellian. The water company asked us to reduce, reuse and recycle. We complied. We did such a great job, that they increased rates because we weren't using enough water and they weren't making enough money. It's insane.

Did you expect the utility to eat the costs of lower consumption despite their costs going up?

I doubt the dip in water use was enough to offset the wear on infra that needs to be dealt with. Or the labor costs to do that maintenance which go up each year.

Oh sure some of the revenue may be useless but you can’t expect something like a water utility to behave like a social media company. Facebook could go tits up and people are out of jobs.

What happens when a water utility folds?

Re: California declared drought free for first time in seven years

#105

The experience here in Orange County over the last few months has been nuts. Being able to hang out down near the ocean and see the San Gabriel mountains just decked out in snow is surreal: https://i.redd.it/kueaye5p6si21.jpg Another photo: https://i.redd.it/vy7dlavrh0f21.jpg Anaheim hills, an area that rarely gets snowed on: https://i.redd.it/trbf198kb6i21.jpg Then we roll right into the poppy/wildflower superbloom…

> This place sucks a lot of the time with all of the congestion and traffic, heat, smog, high cost of living etc... but times like this really make you stop and appreciate how beautiful it is. That's how I feel every day here

I felt so sad that the butterfly's habit was destroyed by so many people here.

Re: California declared drought free for first time in seven years

#106

The experience here in Orange County over the last few months has been nuts. Being able to hang out down near the ocean and see the San Gabriel mountains just decked out in snow is surreal: https://i.redd.it/kueaye5p6si21.jpg Another photo: https://i.redd.it/vy7dlavrh0f21.jpg Anaheim hills, an area that rarely gets snowed on: https://i.redd.it/trbf198kb6i21.jpg Then we roll right into the poppy/wildflower superbloom…

I thought California. Has the best climate in the country?

It does but most of california has been destroyed by pollution, toxic waste and trash.

Re: California declared drought free for first time in seven years

#107
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Los Angeles has a system of cement washways that move large amounts of rainwater to the ocean to prevent flooding that used to happen semi-regularly. If they stored that water in reservoirs, they wouldn’t need to get so much of their water from the various aqueduct systems used today. Such a system could effectively buffer the negative impact of droughts, while still serving the purpose of flood prevention during wet…

You probably wouldn't want to drink the stormwater that's washed off of LA pavement.

Modern water plants can clean it.

Re: California declared drought free for first time in seven years

#108
post #85

its funny how no matter what happens climate wise "its terrible and wrong" when it's reported. What drought.gov calls abnormally-dry is not actually abnormal. What they really mean is "its non-ideal", as if the climate was always ideal pre-2011. Anything that is lower than D2 ("severe drought") is normal, and of course its better to thrive toward ideal and maintaining better conditions. But it doesn't mean that someh…

What exactly is it you’re trying to say?

California has been trending hotter, and drier. The link you point to has a scale of different levels of dryness.

Where exactly is the sinister doublespeak in this?

Re: California declared drought free for first time in seven years

#109
post #85

its funny how no matter what happens climate wise "its terrible and wrong" when it's reported. What drought.gov calls abnormally-dry is not actually abnormal. What they really mean is "its non-ideal", as if the climate was always ideal pre-2011. Anything that is lower than D2 ("severe drought") is normal, and of course its better to thrive toward ideal and maintaining better conditions. But it doesn't mean that someh…

Thanks for the clinical discussion around environmental droughts. As usual such technical views ignore the on-the-ground experience for people to provide context for the language you’re criticizing. Yes, to the ecosystem itself, in a vacuum, it’s not bad. To human existence there it’s been problematic. Emotions are up over it. Perhaps that’s an alternative argument you’re not considering? This is like telling people…

The problem is that California has the flu and people think its cancer. Getting the flu sucks but you're probably not gonna die. I remember forest fires as well as mudslides in CA back in the 1970s. Perhaps the last few years were an extreme, but note that going to that extreme and back took about a decade. Most people haven't been there long enough to know what normal is and just buy in to all the media hype.

Re: California declared drought free for first time in seven years

#110
post #108
post #85

its funny how no matter what happens climate wise "its terrible and wrong" when it's reported. What drought.gov calls abnormally-dry is not actually abnormal. What they really mean is "its non-ideal", as if the climate was always ideal pre-2011. Anything that is lower than D2 ("severe drought") is normal, and of course its better to thrive toward ideal and maintaining better conditions. But it doesn't mean that someh…

What exactly is it you’re trying to say? California has been trending hotter, and drier. The link you point to has a scale of different levels of dryness. Where exactly is the sinister doublespeak in this?

He's seemingly either a climate denialist or some sort of troll; just look through his post history.
Post reply on HN