Isnt 2600 older than CDC?
2600 isn't a hacking group, it's a publication that has meetups.
Both 2600 and cDc started in 1984, however. LOD did too.
Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group
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#282Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group
#283Does the Homebrew Computer Club not count?
I feel like the author should have said "longest running," but sensationalized it a bit instead. I'm sure there were many hacker groups before 1984.
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sad that you failed to mention the original /Hackers/ movie as well as /Swordfish/ -- two staples of Defcon movie nights.
Sneakers with Robert Redford
Sneakers worked well because it had A-list actors playing up the social engineering aspect, which an A-list actor can do. It had comparatively little meditation on the hardware and technical aspects and from a plot and longevity perspective I think that was a particular strength of the movie.
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#285I hope nobody uncovers the naruto fan fiction I wrote in my teens when I run for political office.
Just be glad you're not a furry! (He says, remembering all the times he's had fun hanging out with furries... those guys know how to party!)
We're also pretty cool when we're not partying. 24/7 cool.
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#286He named his BBS "TacoLand". He should definitely play up this angle...maybe campaign on a taco cart on every corner. I know people who will vote for him for that alone. This piece is a disaster. It's an excerpt from a soon to be released book, it's light on facts about O'Rourke and is at least equally about Cult of the Dead Cow, it's trying to make things sound more nefarious than they were, and it's playing the gui…
>it's trying to make things sound more nefarious than they were, and it's playing the guilt by association card Are we reading the same article? If anything this article seems like a submarine PR puff piece to me, made to increase the image of Beto by making him seem "cool" and "hip" by associating him with the typically-seen-as-sexy "hacker" scene. This article is very similar to the pro-Beto stuff that was all over…
Agreed. Beto’s biggest concern is the Dem primary, and his biggest criticism is being too centrist and status quo. Appearing to be ahead of the tech curve and walking the edge of hacker-disobedience makes him more palatable to his critics during the primary phase.
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#287Unfortunately, his politics are not nearly as progressive as his public posture.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/my-advice-to-progres...
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#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
> He’s a candidate in a primary. Big difference in the audiences. The Democratic primary electorate is probably the segment of the population with the strongest negative impact around the 2016 election hacking that was evoked in the grandparent post, so while true your comment reinforces rather than negates the point.
It gives him at least a touch of credibility in a time where the Democratic primary voters increasingly turn on CSPAN to watch Congressional Committee hearings and watch as a vast majority of their 535 representatives butcher basic facts about technology that they internalized since teenagers. Given the rapid pace of technological development, I don't see this as a negative, assuming he didn't do anything more nefari…
And he's just somebody new. Parties seem to have a tendency to wheel out old candidates who have tried and failed to get past the primaries multiple times already (thinking of Biden, in particular here, but that's just one example). Not sure why that is.
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#289He named his BBS "TacoLand". He should definitely play up this angle...maybe campaign on a taco cart on every corner. I know people who will vote for him for that alone. This piece is a disaster. It's an excerpt from a soon to be released book, it's light on facts about O'Rourke and is at least equally about Cult of the Dead Cow, it's trying to make things sound more nefarious than they were, and it's playing the gui…
> (Not that I'm defending this behavior, but so did I.)
Same. I bet every one of us in this thread did, too! At least the pirated software part.