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Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by pizlonator »

js2 wrote: post #46

He named his BBS "TacoLand". He should definitely play up this angle...maybe campaign on a taco cart on every corner. I know people who will vote for him for that alone. This piece is a disaster. It's an excerpt from a soon to be released book, it's light on facts about O'Rourke and is at least equally about Cult of the Dead Cow, it's trying to make things sound more nefarious than they were, and it's playing the gui…

The fact that this is coming out so early in the presidential cycle is a good thing for him though. Lots of time for it to become old news. Lots of time for him to spin it. He seems to be good at spin.

Anyway this makes me respect him more.

Anyone know his handle btw?

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Post by Brakenshire »

smhenderson wrote: post #111
Brakenshire wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do texts that contain bomb-making information really fall under the first amendment in the US?

According to Wikipedia[1] the legal status of the book has been challenged or been brought up by politicians over the years but that it is still readily available from online retailers like Amazon. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Anarchist_Cookbook#Legalit...

I think this book in particular is not serious in that respect, it's something written by an angry teenager (who became a communicant member of the Church of England five years later!). The person in the article above was acquitted on the basis that he was just a prankster, and that's mostly the audience of the book. I'm more interested in the general principle.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by Brakenshire »

philwelch wrote: post #247
Brakenshire wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do texts that contain bomb-making information really fall under the first amendment in the US?

"Imminent lawless action" is the current constitutional standard.

That seems to be about incitement, do that apply to technical documentation? As described above, instructions to build a nuclear bomb, to take an extreme example, are restricted, but surely not on that basis.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by Brakenshire »

ozzyman700 wrote: post #184
Brakenshire wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do texts that contain bomb-making information really fall under the first amendment in the US?

Yes, however I bet it might fall under 'providing material aid' if provided to a foreign "terrorist" entity.

Oh, that's interesting. Difficult to see how such a link could be demonstrated with online publishing though.

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Post by edaemon »

dragonwriter wrote: post #243
edaemon wrote: post #131

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That will certainly be brought up in the campaign, but it was brought up in his House races and the Senate race and didn't seem to have much of an impact.

> That will certainly be brought up in the campaign, but it was brought up in his House races and the Senate race and didn't seem to have much of an impact. A very actively contested Presidential primary isn't the same thing as a House or Senate race, and he didn't win the Senate race, either.

That's true. I mostly meant that it isn't a new development, it's been in the news before.

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Post by ozzyman700 »

Brakenshire wrote: post #274
ozzyman700 wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, however I bet it might fall under 'providing material aid' if provided to a foreign "terrorist" entity.

Oh, that's interesting. Difficult to see how such a link could be demonstrated with online publishing though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_th...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Munitions_List

It seems distributing TAC online should be fine, I thought it might fall under some kind of ITAR requirement but I am just ignorant of the truth.

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Post by akhilcacharya »

ceejayoz wrote: post #229
burfog wrote: post #190

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It was a close race, and he lost. That seems like an impact.

A Democrat losing in a race in Texas isn't exactly a shocking development.

And he did significantly better than most people and polls expected he'd do. 3 points, getting more votes than Hillary and Obama in a midterm year through persuasion more than turnout.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by akhilcacharya »

m0zg wrote: post #161
gaze wrote: post #73

Why are all the articles about Beto about how cool and antiestablishment he is? Just absolutely nothing about what he really intends to do, how he intends to do it, and most importantly, how do we reconcile his conservative voting record with this contrary image he presents?

>> what he really intends to do Doesn't matter to his voting base. See e.g. Obama. Obama did very little of what he promised in the first term, got re-elected anyway (heck, even I voted for the guy). But unlike Obama, Beto is not going to be the president, not after losing the race to one of the least likeable candidates in his own state, and not with a DWI on his criminal record.

Cruz is only unlikable in the liberal bubble, most Texans approve of him and he still only won by < 3 in a state Trump won by 9 and Romney won by 15.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by dontbenebby »

duxup wrote: post #153
dontbenebby wrote: post #144

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IMHO, the best hackers aren't forming groups and vying for "cred". They're quietly building their skills and exploring, while avoiding the spotlight at all costs.

It seems like everyone who gets caught is because they're talking about it online.

or living a lavish lifestyle ala Paul Le Roux

https://magazine.atavist.com/he-always-had-a-dark-side

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