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Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by icedchai »

saalweachter wrote: post #208
txcwpalpha wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Society glamorizes hackers hard . Have you ever seen War Games? The Matrix? Live Free or Die Hard? Mr Robot? Blackhat? Any recent spy movie? What about the multitude of other movies/shows where hackers aren't the focus, but are certainly glamorized, a la NCIS, CSI, Limitless, etc. There's an entire genre of film & television about hackers and they are almost always portrayed as cool, attractive, powerful people with…

... have you seen War Games?

War Games is what made me want to get a modem, back in the 80's!

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by dragonwriter »

VectorLock wrote: post #224
antibland wrote: post #198

Beto has taken more donations from oil and gas companies than any other Democrat. The only politician who's taken more is Republican Ted Cruz. His vagueness on many issues is partly due to how beholden he is to his donors.

>Beto has taken more donations from oil and gas companies than any other Democrat. I wonder how much of that is an artifact of running in Texas.

> I wonder how much of that is an artifact of running in Texas.

It's unlikely to matter in a Democratic presidential primary campaign, especially one where a number of candidates are going to try to use environmental issues as a key differentiator.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by dagw »

mruts wrote: post #211
lukewink wrote: post #188

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> And hasn’t pretty much almost anyone driven drunk at least once? No...

By drunk I mean above the legal BAC. It’s pretty easy to have a few beers and be above the legal limit.

It's also pretty easy to have a few beers and not drive

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by philwelch »

edaemon wrote: post #170
velcrovan wrote: post #128

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For real. Dude sided with republicans against his own party even though he was in a solidly blue district. Even campaigned all over the state for a republican! I love what he did for downballot dems in 2016 and he had that great speech on youtube. But c'mon. Mr GOP Lovefest is not who we need in 2020.

I didn't know much about his voting record, so I searched a bit and found this: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/21/18150359/... That indicates O'Rourke votes slightly conservative for a Democrat, but is still far more liberal than any Republican. The data cited there shows him pretty squarely in the "slightly conservative Democrat" range: https://voteview.com/person/21361/beto-o-rourke Is that an inac…

Purity testing. Kind of like how Republicans dismiss moderates as "RINOs".

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by BookmarkSaver »

antibland wrote: post #198

Beto has taken more donations from oil and gas companies than any other Democrat. The only politician who's taken more is Republican Ted Cruz. His vagueness on many issues is partly due to how beholden he is to his donors.

He was almost a victorious Senate candidate in Texas, and it's no coincidence that the other person with the most was his opponent. Context matters.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by dragonwriter »

BookmarkSaver wrote: post #235
antibland wrote: post #198

Beto has taken more donations from oil and gas companies than any other Democrat. The only politician who's taken more is Republican Ted Cruz. His vagueness on many issues is partly due to how beholden he is to his donors.

He was almost a victorious Senate candidate in Texas, and it's no coincidence that the other person with the most was his opponent. Context matters.

> He was almost a victorious Senate candidate in Texas

“He needed the fossil fuel money in order to almost (but still not) win his one campaign for statewide office” is probably not a defense the O'Rourke camp would be well served by when the issue, inevitably, arises.

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Post by arbitrage »

busterarm wrote: post #16
arbitrage wrote: post #10

Wonder what his handle was.

It says what it was in the article

Yes, but it is a poorly written article, and I have no inclination to wade through five paragraphs of garbage to find it.

Thanks for your help there, bub.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by merlincorey »

appleiigs wrote: post #226
merlincorey wrote: post #177

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I'm sad that you failed to mention the original /Hackers/ movie as well as /Swordfish/ -- two staples of Defcon movie nights.

Sneakers with Robert Redford

Yes! Another great classic Hacker flick.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by dragonwriter »

saidajigumi wrote: post #154
js2 wrote: post #46

He named his BBS "TacoLand". He should definitely play up this angle...maybe campaign on a taco cart on every corner. I know people who will vote for him for that alone. This piece is a disaster. It's an excerpt from a soon to be released book, it's light on facts about O'Rourke and is at least equally about Cult of the Dead Cow, it's trying to make things sound more nefarious than they were, and it's playing the gui…

dialed long distance without paying for it. In the right generation, isn't that practically a job requirement for a CSO?

> In the right generation, isn't that practically a job requirement for a CSO?

Which, were he applying for a job as a CSO, might be relevant.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by akiselev »

dragonwriter wrote: post #223
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #215

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> I would challenge the idea that being a “hacker” polls well for a presidential candidate He’s a candidate in a primary. Big difference in the audiences.

> He’s a candidate in a primary. Big difference in the audiences. The Democratic primary electorate is probably the segment of the population with the strongest negative impact around the 2016 election hacking that was evoked in the grandparent post, so while true your comment reinforces rather than negates the point.

It gives him at least a touch of credibility in a time where the Democratic primary voters increasingly turn on CSPAN to watch Congressional Committee hearings and watch as a vast majority of their 535 representatives butcher basic facts about technology that they internalized since teenagers. Given the rapid pace of technological development, I don't see this as a negative, assuming he didn't do anything more nefarious than phreak or pirate as a kid.
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