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Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by SlowRobotAhead »

dragonwriter wrote: post #143
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Sanders (second, so arguably the most likely nominee). I wonderfully interested that you think the DNC would allow that to happen after just two year of being shown explicitly that they will do whatever is needed to make sure that does not happen.

> I wonderfully interested that you think the DNC would allow that to happen after just two year of being shown explicitly that they will do whatever is needed to make sure that does not happen. It's not the same DNC. While the Sanders faction didn't gain control after the 2016 election, they essentially got a power-sharing agreement and, more importantly, they've gotten a bunch of reforms, including mostly neutraliz…

I don't at all agree. The DNC had a system to allow rigging, and I'd willing to bet my lunch they still do. If they had a system of rigging - why do you think they would give that up what would their incentive be to do that? They didn't want Bernie then, they don't now, it's the same people in the organization.

But... Because neither of us can possibly prove it. I guess we'll just wait and see. I believe they just won't let him and they'll either do it by rigging more subtly this time, or have Warren there only to split his votes. Either way, it'll be more interesting than the "show" they put on last time with Webb and Chafey bowing before Hillary.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by pastor_elm »

spinach wrote: post #157
jplayer01 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is he wrong? Most terrorists in the US are white. Hell, the terrorists in NZ were white. For everybody downvoting me: https://www.vox.com/world/2017/10/2/16396612/las-vegas-mass-... I'm not sure what's so controversial here. Most attacks since 9/11 on American ground were perpetrated by white supremacists or similar. But it's nice to see how quick Americans are to defend their precious country.

Uncomfortable truth is uncomfortable. White males are responsible for more mass shootings than any other in America, and down-voting isn't going to make it untrue.

downvoters probably believe they're isolated incidents of mental illness.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by cobralibre »

js2 wrote: post #46

He named his BBS "TacoLand". He should definitely play up this angle...maybe campaign on a taco cart on every corner. I know people who will vote for him for that alone. This piece is a disaster. It's an excerpt from a soon to be released book, it's light on facts about O'Rourke and is at least equally about Cult of the Dead Cow, it's trying to make things sound more nefarious than they were, and it's playing the gui…

> He named his BBS "TacoLand".

It certainly wouldn't have been unusual for a young Beto O'Rourke (or any other Texan) to have tacos on his mind for any number of reasons, but "Taco Land" was the name of a punk bar in San Antonio. It was well known to Texas punks and their ilk and was immortalized by the Dead Milkmen in the late 80s by their song "Tacoland".

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by [deleted] »

ddebernardy wrote: post #159
busterarm wrote: post #79

Having been involved in the community for most of my life, my very first thought was "oh that's cool he's one of us" and then I remembered that historically hackers have been phenomenally bad people to give any kind of real power to.

> and then I remembered that historically hackers have been phenomenally bad people to give any kind of real power to. I'm confused... Doesn't that also apply to career lawmakers? Is there any statistically meaningful data to suggest it's better to have a lawyer or a judge than a hacker in a position of power?

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Post by cbsks »

Kurtz79 wrote: post #13
zinclozenge wrote: post #5

I hope nobody uncovers the naruto fan fiction I wrote in my teens when I run for political office.

You joke about it, but it is kind of scary that some obscure tweet or facebook post one did in their teens might be used against them when running for (whatever) public office...

One of my college roommates was considering running for office one day. He spent a lot of effort to keep his social media presence clean including avoiding group photos at parties. This was in 2004-2009, and at the time I thought that he was being overly paranoid. It turns out that he was right. Even if you painstakingly prune your social media history today there is always the chance that someone will be able to dig it up. The internet rarely forgets.

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Post by brandonmenc »

njepa wrote: post #189
busterarm wrote: post #79

Having been involved in the community for most of my life, my very first thought was "oh that's cool he's one of us" and then I remembered that historically hackers have been phenomenally bad people to give any kind of real power to.

~80/90s hackers aren't really the same thing as most post 00 hackers. A lot of people were in it because they were curious about this new thing and the opportunities to explore something and express themselves. The same way you would in other emerging cultures. Those aren't bad qualities.

> ~80/90s hackers aren't really the same thing as most post 00 hackers.

Yeah, no hackers from the 80s and 90s ever had any bad intents. /sarcasm

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by cbsks »

mikeash wrote: post #70
Kurtz79 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You joke about it, but it is kind of scary that some obscure tweet or facebook post one did in their teens might be used against them when running for (whatever) public office...

We’re in a weird transition period where all this information is now available but we’re not used to it yet. The illusion that people had a clean past is still prevalent. I suspect that in another decade or two, we’ll finally internalize the fact that everybody does stupid crap and nobody will care about it anymore.

Or people will realize that the internet is forever and will stop posting even slightly controversially things publicly, unless under a pseudonym. My generation may be the first and last to publicly post all of their stupid teenage thoughts on the internet for anyone to dig up later.
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