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My Salary Progression in Tech

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My progression: 2008: Graduated with a BS in CS from University of London. I grew up in Europe. 2008: €30K - Joined a small company in Europe as their only programmer doing vehicle GPS tracking. 2009: €30K - Still there. 2010: €50K - Joined Amazon in Dublin, Ireland as an SDE-1 (entry level) in the AWS CloudWatch team. 2011: €75K - Still at Amazon, same team. 2012: $120K - Moved to Seattle with the same team. Promote…

I look at numbers like this and think... where did I go wrong?

I must have gone seriously, seriously wrong...

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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I feel slightly motivated, but mostly crushed by these crazy TC levels. Although I know I'm doing fairly decent for myself, as someone who is very critical of my own progress or lack of, it feels very disheartening to see people my age making 10x what I am, simply because they are located in SV, doing the same work. In my area, short of being extremely fortunate to land some amazing fully-remote job, there is not one…

Right there with you. I’m doing pretty decent, making 85k but straight out of college. At a nice start up in a big city. But 800k at Netflix? Good god.. I should mention I’m ‘straight out of college’ at 27, so that’s contributing, too.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol I'm sorry but no. 400k a year in US puts you in "I am a millionaire" status after like 5 years. 90k euros and big city purchasing power in France is most likely comparable to 180k in US. Remember, all these jobs we are talking about come with full benefits -- 401k with between 5-8% matching, stock options, healthcare, vision, dental, etc. And I am assuming you are talking about 90k euro after taxes not before bec…

This was discussed in the sibling thread, but that 90k€ is definitely before taxes. It's exceedingly rare to make that much after taxes, perhaps unless in senior management.

Wow, well then 90k Euro in France is no where close to 400k, much less 180k US.

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Southern New England, not in a metro area. White male, stubbornly refusing to leave his hometown area for his career. 2009: $25 per hour, contractor, on site at giant pharmaceutical company. Built a web app using jsp and tomcat 2010: $55k per year, University IT department. Building web apps in python for university staff. Crazy union contract- 35hr work week and 5 weeks PTO 2012: same job, same benefits, applied for…

What stack / tech did you use for "highly available distributed systems" and do you feel like it helped differentiate your skill set in terms of hireability?

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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In the spirit of this discussion, I’ll share my journey. In 2015, my base was $95k. Today, it is $150k. Including stocks and bonuses, my total compensation went from ~$140k to $220k. In California, but not the Bay Area. I hold a Bachelor’s from a pretty good university, but by no means an elite institution. White guy from a modest background: grew up lower middle class, single mother who worked in retail, got free lu…

An income over 220k is easily > 90% percentile. I do not know what upper middle class is supposed to mean. Does it mean 90-95 percentile?

The economic definition of middle class is very different from how people identify themselves. In the US, unless you have enough wealth to live like a celebrity most high earners identify themselves as Upper Middle Class.

The cost of maintaining your Upper Middle Class status is very high: tuition for elite, private schools, mortgages on giant homes and vacation homes, leases on luxury cars to keep up with the neighbors, and the desire to live in high-cost exclusive communities, etc.

Because of all of the above, people that should be "rich" if you look at where they are on an income distribution graph, actually do not feel "rich." So they identify as Upper Middle Class.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Some context: PhD in EE, but spend most of my time coding. 2011: $100k, industry R&D lab, VA 2012: $150k, “”, “” 2013: $150k, “”, “” 2014: $0, self-employed and didn’t turn a profit 2015: $100k, academic researcher, Midwest 2016: $160k, industry R&D, SV 2017: $165k, “”, “” 2018: $170k, “”, “” Since 2016, I’ve been working in SV for a company that pays engineers all cash, a modest bonus, and no stock. I like the work…

> I couldn’t provide a family with the same lifestyle my parents gave me (a house, two cars, safe neighborhood, good school district, mother could stop working for several years to raise me)

That's true, probably. But you don't need 2 cars and a house for your family to have the same quality of life.

If you live in the right neighborhood 1 or zero cars is fine. And a family of 4 can live just as happily and comfortably in a 2 bedroom apartment.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hardly ever comment on HN (I usually lurk) but I felt compelled to due to the sheer amount of false claims in this comment. First off, can we define "things" in your sentence "things are actually cheaper, not more expensive"? What are the "things" you're talking about? Education? Eh... not really expensive in the US, is it? the US student loan debt is swelling at about $1.5 trillion... and counting. It speaks volum…

I just live and work in the USA my whole life, if anything I'm wrong about France. I'm not going to bother to refute most of your claims, as the premise is what are the salaries of tech people, not what are the standards of living of jobless people in San Francisco. Most of the US population, including myself and most of my acquaintances, live outside of those major cities, and that was the point I was making. You li…

Amazing.

I just caught you out making stuff up and now you resort to making yet again even more stuff up: "Education expenses are whatever you want to pay" (yeah, let's just buy 1/10th of a Bachelor degree, sounds like a plan to cut the costs), "you listed off literally the most expensive places to live in the USA, where the majority of people do not live" (sure, nobody lives in major cities) (why the hell are they called major cities then? God knows).

This conversation is leading nowhere so I'm just gonna stop responding.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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> It's always been my intention to retire early, > I'm interested in making huge money and retiring early, > I don't begrudge people with their crazy salaries but I do get frustrated that I can't find success myself. I am shocked and surprised at the same time (knowing that I only selected quotes of a few commentators). Shocked to see the same mindset as many managing consultants and investment bankers I have met and…

> Choose life, not career. Find something you love doing and do it for the 'work' itself, not for some postponed happiness. Insightful story about the investment banker. Your policy about choosing life feels like good advice in light of that story. The implementation details, that’s where it always gets difficult. My story: I want to make music. I think of music all the time. Whenever I made music I was passionate ab…

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Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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These are unbelievably high salaries. In Germany such salaries are possible only at management positions (not talking about IB) of large companies only. I visited US 3 years back and I found everything better - clothing cheaper, food more delicious, people friendlier and houses bigger. Yes you don't have social security and have poverty issues but I would still be in US than in Europe considering the amount of money…

There is very little concept of thrift left in the United States, so if you make a huge salary the entire economy is designed for you to spend it all and more. What do I mean by that? The more you make, the more banks aggressively offer you credit. You have no idea how many people I know that make several hundred thousand a year, but are crippled by debt. Not just mortgages on big houses, if you make a lot of money b…

It’s a matter of personal discipline. There is an enormous variety and quantity of inexpensive calories available as well. Some people take excessive advantage of that and others don’t.

I get those same credit line offers and just don’t respond. We live in the same house we bought 12 years ago when I was making around half of what I make now. We drive our cars for 8-15 years and usually buy them used (my cheap electric LEAF was bought new only because of the $10K in government incentives made buying used make no sense, all others were used).

Frugality can easily be done; it does take some discipline. I see colleagues with $100K kitchen renovations and two leased luxury automobiles. I am quite sure we’re headed to a happier and more secure retirement, early if we like, but more likely simply flush and setting our kids up for a good financial grounding and head-start.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Just for the sake of variety, I started off as a promising young software developer but let idealism and thirst for adventure get in the way :) Besides loving to code, having skills in high demand has allowed me to travel and explore the world for the past 20 years. 1997-1998 - $32k - Programmer for State government 1998-1999 - $86k - Consultant, Phoenix & NYC 2000-2004 - $32k - Software developer for NGO, Amsterdam…

As someone who cares more about adventure than $$$ and just founded my own NGO, mad respect. 2014: -$10k - Founded a startup. 2015: $35k - Moved to SV, raised a small seed. 2016: $54k - Running my startup in SV. 2017: $60k - Remote contracting from Scotland. 2018: $25k - Remote contracting. Founded an NGO in Europe, almost all of my contracting money goes to supporting my work with that. 2019: $20k - Remote contracti…

Any good link on how NGOs work/how to start on in Europe?

Are there unified E.U. rules about it or does it change from country to country ?

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