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My Salary Progression in Tech

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Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Don‘t focus on the huge money aspect. There is a lot of selection bias here, only few people make this much outside of some very particular areas/companies. Comparing Germany (where I’m also from) and the US, I’d say that Germany still gives much higher standard of living at the same salary, especially due to lower rents in the big cities. FYI my progression 120k joining top3 mgmt consulting after PhD, stayed for 4yr…

> 200k in mgmt position at e-commerce company in Berlin For the context: this is an insane amount of money in Berlin, which used to be one of the poorest capitals in Western Europe. Most software engineers make 60-70k. > after PhD, A quick question: does it matter from which university one received his PhD in Germany? I read multiple comments, that unlike in the US and in the UK, most universities in Germany are cons…

In Germany the university playing field is much more level than elsewhere. While certain universities stand out in certain areas, it’s not a deciding factor in most cases. Many of the small town universities are actually quite renowned.

The big divide is Universität vs Fachhochschule (university of applied sciences), which are in many fields considered inferior unless they have special profile (eg highly international).

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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My progression: 23 - 45K (University sysadmin, east coast) 26 - 60k (University research systems programmer, east coast) 31 - 65k (SWE, small IHV, remote) 32-42 -- incremental raises up to $145K (senior SWE, same company) 43 - 425k (Senior SWE, Google, Mountain View CA) 44 - 390k (Senior SWE, Google, Mountain View CA) 45 - 350k (Senior SWE, Netflix, Remote) 46 - 400k (Senior SWE, Netflix, Remote) 47 - 525k (Senior SW…

What kind of genius does one have to be to earn $800k? Or do you possess rare knowledge and connections in your industry?

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Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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2008-2010: Waiter: 6£/h

2010: Intern 4$/h

2011: Intern about 6400£ after taxes for 2 months

2013: 28k/year

2014: 40k/year

2015: 55k/year (£)

2016: Contractor with full employee benefits, remote, python, startup - $75k/year. Small bonus after the startup was bought.

2018: two remote contracts. Working 6 days a week for 12h. After taxes and all my expenses - I live very comfortable lifestyle - I was saving for retirement 10k USD a month.

Now: 81k$/year. 9-to-5, remote, python. I live in central Europe, so I save up about 40% for my retirement. Not sure how to invest money, most likely I'll start my own start up and copy something from US.

My life is really great. I wouldn't trade it for 250k+ Silicon Valley job.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Don‘t focus on the huge money aspect. There is a lot of selection bias here, only few people make this much outside of some very particular areas/companies. Comparing Germany (where I’m also from) and the US, I’d say that Germany still gives much higher standard of living at the same salary, especially due to lower rents in the big cities. FYI my progression 120k joining top3 mgmt consulting after PhD, stayed for 4yr…

This is a lot of money and some massive savings you're talking about. How many hours are you working per week ? (I'm asking this from the other side of the Rhine where such wages are phenomenal).

About 50. Some colleagues on the same level work more but I’m just too tired after that.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Can we really compare them, though? I live in France, where €90k/y puts you in the top 1% salaries. In the US, you’d need to earn $400k/y to be in the same position. Standard of living and other social benefits come to mind.

lol I'm sorry but no. 400k a year in US puts you in "I am a millionaire" status after like 5 years. 90k euros and big city purchasing power in France is most likely comparable to 180k in US. Remember, all these jobs we are talking about come with full benefits -- 401k with between 5-8% matching, stock options, healthcare, vision, dental, etc. And I am assuming you are talking about 90k euro after taxes not before bec…

This was discussed in the sibling thread, but that 90k€ is definitely before taxes. It's exceedingly rare to make that much after taxes, perhaps unless in senior management.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Southern New England, not in a metro area. White male, stubbornly refusing to leave his hometown area for his career.

2009: $25 per hour, contractor, on site at giant pharmaceutical company. Built a web app using jsp and tomcat

2010: $55k per year, University IT department. Building web apps in python for university staff. Crazy union contract- 35hr work week and 5 weeks PTO

2012: same job, same benefits, applied for a "reclassification" in the union levels. $75k per year.

2015: $85k per year. Onsite, big media and entertainment company. Cut my teeth building highly available distributed systems.

2017: $135k per year. Remote. Jumped ship to do similar kinds of work at a remote-first startup that could pay more.

2018: same company offered me a raise (without my asking!) $150k per year.

I've never worked more than 40 hours on a regular basis, but production issues occasionally produce a 60 hour week, maybe twice a year or so.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don‘t focus on the huge money aspect. There is a lot of selection bias here, only few people make this much outside of some very particular areas/companies. Comparing Germany (where I’m also from) and the US, I’d say that Germany still gives much higher standard of living at the same salary, especially due to lower rents in the big cities. FYI my progression 120k joining top3 mgmt consulting after PhD, stayed for 4yr…

Did you take a pay cut moving from consulting to e- commerce company? Did it make your work life balance better? Yes I agree that wanting more money can result in frustration as in Germany such salaries are not that common outside of management positions or specific companies, but I have some plans to fulfill - buying a Porsche; travelling the world; opening an NPO in a developing country, employing literate and teac…

Yes and yes. The work life balance was one primary motivation among other things.

I don’t have aspirations to buy a Porsche and I would have taken the job for much less. I was genuinely surprised when I got the offer.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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My progression: 2008: Graduated with a BS in CS from University of London. I grew up in Europe. 2008: €30K - Joined a small company in Europe as their only programmer doing vehicle GPS tracking. 2009: €30K - Still there. 2010: €50K - Joined Amazon in Dublin, Ireland as an SDE-1 (entry level) in the AWS CloudWatch team. 2011: €75K - Still at Amazon, same team. 2012: $120K - Moved to Seattle with the same team. Promote…

what do L5s and L6s SDEs earn in London - do you have any insight into location based differences?

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Where are you getting 13% from? If you pay yourself a salary from a ltd company there's ~14% Employers NI, 12%-2% Employee NI Depending on tax band, 20-40% Income tax depending on tax band. If you pay a dividend there's 19% Corporation tax plus 7.5%-32.5% Dividend tax. So 46%-56% tax on salary and 26.5%-51.5% tax on dividends. Nowhere near 13%, unless you're talking about 'creative accounting' by running non-business…

Yeah, by all accounts reading online indicates a 45% tax rate for a sole-trader[1]. I'll have to enquire with the few mates there -- don't see a reason as to why they'd bullshit me. Frankly I have nfi however, apologies for the cop-out of an answer. 1: https://www.highspeedtraining.co.uk/hub/sole-trader-tax/

> I'll have to enquire with the few mates there

Sole traders are different to one-person Ltd companies. As a one-person Ltd, you used to get a lot of tax breaks, but over the last 5-6 years they seem to have been steadily eroded.

Anyone paying a rate as low as 13% now is probably using a borderline-legal grey-area scheme, which is dangerous because HMRC not only hit those folks up for back taxes when they find them, but put fines on top too.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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> Real life isn't a Disney movie. Doing what I love, I would be lucky to make $10k a year. Unfortunately, an increasing number of people don't feel this way. Their solution is to increase their salary (and benefits) at the ballot box.

Or fortunately, depending on your sociopolitical views, assuming you're talking about universal basic income?

I think he meant more like minimum wage increases and health insurance mandates.
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